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Old 09-24-2008, 07:25 PM   #26 (permalink)
pan6467
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Originally Posted by dc_dux View Post
Huh...this is all about Obama?

The one video was in 2000? ....talking about forces returning from Iraq to be deployed to NORTHCOM? No...I dont think so!

The establishment and activation of NORTHCOM was by Clinton? No...I dont think so!

You've outdone yourself with this one!
Look around the 2 minute and 14 second mark and on..... hmmm the tape says April 12,2000. Who was president? At the 2:26 mark they overlap the tape with Bush laughing? Why do they want to overlap with Bush laughing when the date on the tape is 4/12/00? Seems to me I remember Clinton being president at that time.

OOO but, it wouldn't be a great scare tactic if you didn't have that type of police state video..... so you have to dig for one during Clinton's time? I'm sure you can find plenty of video during Bush's time. Waco, Ruby Ridge, etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6DRz1I7c6I]YouTube - MARTIAL LAW OCT. 1 , 2008 - WHAT WILL YOU DO ???


How you want me to make it all about Obama when I mentioned him ONLY at the very end, is beyond me.... but ok.

See the problem this whole thing truly shows is that people have taken sides and REFUSE to see that BOTH sides leaders are fucked up power hungry greedy fucks.

If one attacks Obama and talks about how Obama will make things worse.... one side then attacks and says "Fuck you racist, you're hate for bama shows... he is our saviour and he and only he will save us."

Meanwhile, attack McCain and how things will get worse with him, it's..... "Fuck you, you non patriotic American hating lefty pinko."

Meanwhile, the true powers that be, sit back, laugh at the puppet strings they pull and continue to rape us and take power from the people.

Both sides say, "Wake up".... yet they only mean "wake up to MY side." Not to truly wake up.

But continue telling me and everyone else who wants to believe you DC that I'm just attacking your man. You who work for the party and will say anything to protect those who pay your paycheck......

By all means.
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Originally Posted by roachboy View Post
wait:

so first you're claiming that an action which is the prerogative of the administration, which is the bush administration, which is, last time i checked, a republican administration with a demonstrable history of trying to govern from inside a state of emergency---which is not good if you like any trace of that democracy thing---is somehow imputable to obama's campaign? how does that work?
First and foremost, I have conspiratorial tendencies. I do not believe ANYTHING in America for the last 30+ years has "just happened". I believe we have people who are deeply embedded in our government and make things happen and control the governmental responses. Did they cause 9/11? Very probable. Did they cause Hurricane Katrina? LOL, I'm not that nutty, but they controlled the response. Did they control OKC, Ruby Ridge, Waco, and things behind the scenes? Very probable.

I have contended the last few YEARS, that the next person elected president, if we have elections, would inherit a horrendous problem that would get only worse during his/her term. By all means look at posts long before the primary season, maybe 2-3 years ago from me. You will see exactly what I said and predicted.

Now, if you read the 2 beginning paragraphs I have typed here with open mind, maybe even researched past posts of mine, then you can see where I believe that for Obama this is a set up. He gets the blame in 2 years and some people will use race, some will say his background and so on. Some will still blame Bush, but not enough and the GOP will sweep the Congress much like they did in 94.

With McCain, they can say, "he just followed the pattern" and people will hopefully wake up in the GOP side.

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and then, further down, you claim:
if the melting down of the derivatives industry continues, it FOLLOWS that martial law would be a possibility?

which you then pin on the bush administration.

what gives?
could you explain your argument better?
Yes, the economy will continue to truly go down. Martial Law maybe the only way to truly save our country SHORT TERM. However, nothing in government is "short term". But when riots break out because people start losing houses, jobs, toys and are having to loot to eat and live.... Martial Law maybe all that saves innocent people.

Should it come to that. While the possibility exists, I seriously doubt it will happen large scale. Large scale it will be impossible. But they have made sure it is harder for people to exit to Canada and Mexico.... yet made it easier than ever for Mexicans and Canadians to come here. You can check in but you can never leave, so to speak.

There is a reason the drug problem especially opiates is increasing horrendously along with mindless video games, music with no political statements, and so on are being fed to our youth.

Right now, there is still enough people to fight back.... 20 years from now.... not a chance in Hell.

You destroy the education..... you turn religion into political games and put money over the true meaning of spirituality.... you make people believe money buys them power, but if you pull the strings and control who gets the money you control who gets the power...... you war with the press "Too LIBERAL" "TOO RIGHT WINGED".... you divide the country on issues and labels that have no true meaning but you make those meaningless issues more important and forefront than the true issues that would truly affect your power..... You destroy heroes...... you downplay patriotism or overplay it....... and finally you take away hope of a better life and then when you have completed all those, you have destroyed the country.

The powers that be have done a very vey good job at doing the above for the past 30+ years but it still is a generation away from finality.

This election truly means nothing..... it's 2010 and 2012 that either nails the coffin shut or allows the lid to be blown fully off.

Of course you can all claim I have no idea what I am saying.... you can all claim that I am insane..... even if you don't believe what I wrote, just read it with open mind..... LOOK DEEPLY AT WHAT IS TRULY GOING ON.... then and only then pass judgment on what I say.
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