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Old 09-23-2008, 09:01 AM   #266 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Nisses View Post
I didn't know there was such a thing as a professional cop? Or that police departments were doing business?

Is it so hard to understand Cynthetiq's point Kutulu and Rekna?

Some services are necessary, some are important. A whole lot are not.

In the end what you 2 want is a good slab of taxes and contributions that you pay the state to take care of you.
Cynthetiq feels quite the opposite. Things have costs. They need to be taken care of. It's a personal and independant view.

That doesn't mean that people could not rally to help said rape-victim, even financially.
It just means that compassion/empathy shouldn't be enforced by the powers that be.
Rape kits are not services or aid or anything to help the victim. It has nothing to do with victim counseling. It is for evidence collection only. The PD cannot conduct the investigation without it. The only way to form an argument that it may be reasonable to charge the victim is to show any other serious crime where the victim is billed for the evidence collection.

This is what is included in a kit:

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A sexual assault evidence collection kit contains commonly available examination tools such as:

* Detailed instructions for the examiner
* Forms for documentation
* Tube for blood sample
* Urine sample container
* Paper bags for clothing collection
* Large sheet of paper for patient to undress over
* Cotton swabs for biological evidence collection
* Sterile water
* Sterile saline
* Glass slides
* Unwaxed dental floss
* Wooden stick for fingernail scrapings
* Envelopes or boxes for individual evidence samples
* Labels

Other items needed for a forensic/medical exam and treatment that may not be included in the rape kit are:

* Woods lamp
* Toluidine blue dye
* Drying rack for wet swabs and/or clothing
* Patient gown, cover sheet, blanket, pillow
* Needles/syringes for blood drawing
* Speculums
* Post-It Notes used to collect trace evidence
* Camera (35 mm, digital, or Polaroid), film, batteries
* Medscope and/or colcoscope
* Microscope
* Surgilube
* Acetic acid diluted spray
* Medications
* Clean clothing and shower/hygiene items for the victim's use after the exam

In the United States, a typical evidence collection process for sexual assault victims is:

* A nurse, physician, physician assistant - any medical provider explains the hospital's HIV testing procedure and why HIV testing is beneficial. The victim then decides whether or not to permit HIV testing. In many states, there is no charge to the victim for these services.
* Routine blood collection is done (to check for pregnancy or sexually transmitted diseases).
* The nurse documents any evidence of torn clothing or external injuries and takes photographs.
* The victim's clothing is collected and new clothes are provided.
* Any physical evidence from the rape scene (such as grass or leaves) is also collected.
* Hairs are collected: the nurse collects any loose hairs or debris in the pelvic area (looking for pubic hairs of the assailant). In some cases, some of the victim's pubic hairs are needed and 15-20 of the victim's head hairs (to differentiate the victim's hairs from the assailant's).
* Fingernail scrapings are collected for detection of blood or tissue.
* The nurse then examines the victim's perineum, thighs, abdomen, buttocks and facial area for evidence of semen and, if detected, it is collected.
* Several slides are made and swabs taken from the vaginal, anal, and oral areas to check for semen, sexually transmitted diseases, and infections.
* The hospital provides the victim with any preventive medicine necessary (for tetanus, sexually transmitted diseases, pregnancy, etc.).
* Medical personnel perform the pelvic exam. The victim may request to have the examination done by a person of the same gender.

The sexual assault exam kit is then sealed in a box and secured at the hospital until given to the police for further laboratory analysis. For the box to be used in criminal proceedings, it is vital that the chain of custody and the integrity of the kit is preserved.
The only think that I see as possibly uncessesary is the HIV exam.
-----Added 23/9/2008 at 01 : 03 : 54-----
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Originally Posted by Cynthetiq View Post
Yes, in some counties you are to pay for biohazard cleanup.
You've already tried using this. Biohazard cleanup has nothing to do with evidence collection. I see no reason why a taxpayer should be on the hook for biohazard cleanup on private property.

Last edited by kutulu; 09-23-2008 at 09:03 AM.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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