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Old 09-22-2008, 11:48 AM   #235 (permalink)
Cynthetiq
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Originally Posted by Paq View Post
This is for the tests performed on the woman who was raaaaaaaaped.

not on her house that was damaged
or on her body that was carted away....

but on a woman who was assaulted physically and raaaaaped.

lemme put it this way: 99.999999% of the country does not charge for it...alaska gets more earmarks per capita than anyone in the union...she raised taxes on oil companies, etc, and was able to give people an extra check from the alaska permanent fund....

they could afford it.
It doesn't matter, things have COSTS. Even the HOSPITAL has COSTS associated with processing the rape kit. That is a resource of person who is not doing something else, who is getting paid right? Or are they doing it for free? Or getting a government voucher for doing such things?

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They actually estimated the costs for the rapekits at about 20k a year. That is half the cost of the SUV the city bought Mrs Palin. Also its way less than the millions they spent on a new indoor hockey stadium with heated seats.

Cynthetiq are you actually suggesting that victims should pay for the investigation? Do you see how doing this would lead to a system in which only the rich can have justice served? If you are poor then to bad....
No, I'm not at all. I'm saying that there is costs, and who is going to pay for it? I'm all for giving away services that are needed. I live in a community with lots of services many of which I do not use, but they fund themsevles to pay for all the outreach that they do outside of the government dollars that are given.

I'm a person that believes simply in financial responsibility. If you don't have the funds for something, you can't just "wish" for money to appear. Once money comes from some place, then it's prudent to figure out how to best spend it.

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You missed my point so far I have to wonder if you are being intentionally obtuse or you just don't know what the hell you are talking about. I'm going to assume you aren't being a dick. If you aren't familiar with what a rape kit is, please check here.

When a suspected rape occurs the victim's body is a crime scene. The only difference is that the rape exam is done in a hospital. They aren't providing a service with your precious tax dollar, they are looking for evidence.

Charging a victim for a rape kit is analogous to telling a homicide vics family that they'd love to analyze the blood spatter at their loved one's crime scene but they are going to charge you for it.

Your comment about crime scene cleanup is completely irrelevant to the subject.
I am not being obtuse, I'm being practical. If there's one thing that life has taught me is that if you give an inch someone is going to take that to a yard. I never implied that one should be charged, in some cases it makes sense to charge someone back for it. I've stated simply WHO IS GOING TO PAY FOR IT?

But to come into a forum and then use an emotionally charged point of "RAAAAAAPE!!! she's charging for RAAAAAAPEE!" is practically trollish to illicit a response for how horrible an individual may be all because there could be an element of fiscal responsibility.

Again, my point is about FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY. So far NO politicians seem to have any real handle on that, democrat or republican.
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