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Old 09-22-2008, 11:44 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Shouldnt the Reagan mantra of "trust but verify" apply to our own government as well...at any level?
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Originally Posted by aceventura3 View Post
I don't want to go through history with you, but I will say that government is generally more open today, more accessible today, with information more easily communicated to more people and faster today than at anytime during our national history. In addition some of the laws you cite were passed with the intent of making government more open, making the trendline trend to more openness. So, by comparison on a historical basis, your argument to me seems weak and in no need for further discussion. I never suggested that Bush has not put up a fight, but you are taking a position that I don't think is supportable on a historical perspective.
In addition to new FOIA restrictions, PRA restrictions, tens of thousands of new "security" classifications, destruction of millions of e-mails, excessive use of signing statements, excessive use of "state secrets" designations to avoid release of docs.....

...there is also the "shred, baby shred" actions:



From USAspending.gov

In 2000, the feds spent $452,807 to shred government docs; by 2006, that number rose to $2.9 million. And by halfway through 2007, the feds almost matched that number, with $2.7 million and counting.

But I understand why you dont want to discuss these clear and present trends away from transparency and accountability.
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