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Old 09-22-2008, 11:37 AM   #33 (permalink)
aceventura3
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Originally Posted by asaris View Post
Ace, I think the assumption is that when Republicans are in charge of investigating a fellow Republican, partisan politics are less likely to be involved.
I think Palin made a few enemies in the Republican party. Also, keep in mind that she defeated an incumbent.

Has Obama ever taken a stand against his party? Has he ever voted counter to the marching orders given to him?
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Originally Posted by dc_dux View Post
ace.....it only ignores history if you are in an alternative universe.

In this universe, one only need examine:
More FOIA restrictions as a result of Bush EO (later overturned by Dem Congress) yet still w/ an average 2-yr back up on requests dues to the Buish EO

More restrictions by revisions to Presidential Records Act as a result of Bush EO limiting access to docs....as well as claim by Cheney that VP is not part of Exec Branch and need not comply with PRA (overturned by court last week)

More restrtictions on "sensitive, but unclassified" docs than any previous Administration

Tens of thhousnds of new "security" designation of previously accessible docs and less "de-classificaiton" of older docs than any previous Administration

Destruction of more than 2 milion WH e-mails in violation of WH administrative policies

More Executive "signing statements" than previous Admininstrations combined.

The list goes on.......
I don't want to go through history with you, but I will say that government is generally more open today, more accessible today, with information more easily communicated to more people and faster today than at anytime during our national history. In addition some of the laws you cite were passed with the intent of making government more open, making the trendline trend to more openness. So, by comparison on a historical basis, your argument to me seems weak and in no need for further discussion. I never suggested that Bush has not put up a fight, but you are taking a position that I don't think is supportable on a historical perspective.
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