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Old 09-21-2008, 04:46 AM   #187 (permalink)
Tully Mars
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Originally Posted by jorgelito View Post
Uh, no. Considering there's so few of us, like 1-2 tops on this forum and add the fact that it's the weekend of course responses will be slow to come. Some of us have lives. Come on now, stop fishing.
Are you saying you agree with the status quo conservative mantra of free markets and deregulation?

If so do you think the situation is a crisis?

If you do what do you think the solution should be.

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Originally Posted by jorgelito View Post
Thank you will for your honesty and openess. I do disagree because I feel like Oberman, Huffington , Rush are pretty much the same. Why anyone listens to them at all is a huge mystery to me. None of them are "experts" or trained in the field of political science. As far as I am concerned, they are entertainers liek Chris Rock, Lindsey Lohan, and Krusty the Clown, Therefore, their political opinions should be treated as such.
I agree with that, though I admit I hate lumping Krusty into that mix simply because I think he deserves more respect then that.

After Bush's handling of 9-11 I started watching/reading Micheal Moore, Keith Olbermann, Al Franken more and more. I'd started fact checking people on the right and was pretty pissed off. I think somewhere in the back of my head I figured if these guys are lying those guys must be telling the truth. Not so. I don't think their level of, or quantity of, lying matches that of Fox News, I don't even think they try to hide it anymore. But they (the left's talking heads) make shit up too. I've watched Countdown many times I have seen him take facts or comments completely of of context. I don't like Bush Jr. even slightly but I seen him speak in the afternoon and then end up on Oldbermann only to have what he said cut to the point it's not even close to what he was saying. Oldbermann's recently taken to throwing up poll numbers and making claims like "that's a 15 point swing." I hit pause and no Kieth, unless you failed 3rd grade math that's and 8 point swing.

I met Micheal Moore, have a picture of he and I shaking hands. I liked what he was saying. Until you fact check it it makes sense. I remember watching "Roger & Me" years ago. I liked it, he's kind of funny in it and it points out some pretty screwed up stuff. The film pretty much launched him into the national spot light. The main premises of the film is him trying and repeatedly failing to get an interview with GM CEO Roger Smith. You watch has he tries and tries, failing each time. It's like watching an old episode of Gillian's Island. You just know at the end of the show they'll still be stuck on the island and Gillian will be to blame. Only in this case he won't get the interview and Roger will be to blame. It makes the movie fun and funny. And it makes sense until you find out he did interview Roger Smith for the film and simply left it out. Putting it in would have ruined the entire premise Mike was selling. Lying by omission is still lying Mike. So basically Moore's first film was based on a lie.
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