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Old 09-14-2008, 09:27 PM   #38 (permalink)
pan6467
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Originally Posted by dc_dux View Post
pan...here is why I think you are being disingenuous or dishonest.

The comment you found so offensive was made by one person (a member of Congress). It was not an Obama campaign slogan...it was not part of an ad...it was one guy making a comment in response to a smug commitment by both McCain and Palin about Obama's public service. Was it distasteful? perhaps to some....Was it a "campaign" tactic by Obama....not by any reasonable standard.

Yet you make a dubious unsupportable claim..."that the Obama campaign and supporters seem to like throwing that around." Who is throwing it around...other than Limbaugh, Fox, the right wing blogs...oh...and you!

It would be like saying the McCain campaign "likes throwing around" these ignorant comment by Republican Congressman Steve King or Republican Congressman Lynn Westmoreland:
Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) said that Obama's middle name – Hussein – is relevant to the public discourse surrounding his candidacy, saying in March that if Obama were elected, "Then the radical Islamists, the al Qaeda, the radical Islamists and their supporters, will be dancing in the streets in greater numbers than they did on Sept. 11 because they will declare victory in this War on Terror.

Westmoreland was discussing vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin's speech with reporters outside the House chamber and was asked to compare her with Michelle Obama. "Just from what little I’ve seen of her and Mr. Obama, Sen. Obama, they're a member of an elitist-class individual that thinks that they're uppity," Westmoreland said.
Would you hold the McCain campaign accountable in the same manner you are holding the comment by Cong. Cohen against Obama?


The comment you found so offensive was not an ad or a campaign slogan....comparing an offhand remark by someone not associated with the campaign to an official ad (the LBJ ad) is also disingenuous or dishonest.

If you want to have a discussion about ads and campaign slogans as you suggest.....then stick to ads and campaign slogans! Make sense?
Really, do I need to post the Susan Sarandon or Donna Brazile from CNN, or the US Rep. from Tennessee, quote with link? Or the links of those who "unofficially" are saying it?

It is something that is very much out there and being used.

But again..... why not post your opinion on an ad/slogan/etc that bothers you?

Why keep attacking my one post and opinion?

I am done trying to justify myself. Those who want to believe what they want to believe will. I should not have to justify my opinions or the reason I start a thread.

Was there this mass cry for any of the above examples I gave in an earlier post to "move on to the issues".... "How biased and defend why you created that post"..... "McCain/Bush/GOP hater, you just started the thread to dump on McCain/Bush/GOP". No.

And again, I am calling for people of BOTH sides to post opinions on ads/slogans/etc they like or dislike. Yet, I have not seen anything but attacks on my motive for starting this thread. So truly, who is being the disingenuous one? Who is trying to make mountains out of molehills? Who just posted his opinion and all he asked was that others do the same on ads/slogans/etc that they like or dislike?

Amazing...... but not to be unexpected from people who want to see hidden agendas, conspiracies and so on.
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