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Originally Posted by ottopilot
Yeah, nice job finding an opinion piece that supports your opinion. Which out of the hundreds, perhaps thousands of opinionated blogs could anyone find something supporting their opinion?
I like Mojo_PeiPei's (perhaps more accurate) comment about Obama... so I'll use it.
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ottopilot, you've chosen, along with more conservatives than I can possibly count....to marginalize yourself to a fringe POV that cannot be taken seriously...when you criticize the obvious....the "no bullshit", matter of fact opinions of respected and award winning, MAINSTREAM, Washington Post reporter, Dan Froomkin.
Like it or not...American history and Sarah Palin's own recent history and her biography, support what Froomkin said, and what I am posting....let us review where republican standards once were, and where they are today. Let us compare FDR Jr.'s bio, in 1963, and the "controversy" that republicans claimed made him unqualified for the lowly position, compared to the vice presidency....of undersecretary of commerce:
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News Conference 49 - John F. Kennedy Presidential Library & Museum
News Conference 49
President John F. Kennedy
State Department Auditorium
Washington, D.C.
February 14, 1963
4 :00 PM EST (Thursday)
302 In Attendance
....QUESTION: Mr. President, a number of Republicans have questioned the qualifications of Franklin D. Roosevelt, Jr., to be Under Secretary of Commerce. Would you like to answer them?
THE PRESIDENT: Yes. They questioned the qualifications of his father to be President, and I think that Mr. Roosevelt, I am hopeful, will be confirmed. I wouldn't have sent him up there unless I felt that he would be a good Under Secretary. I served with him in the Congress, and I am for him strongly. I hope the Senate confirms him....
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Vidette-Messenger, The (Newspaper) - March 13, 1963, Valparaiso, Indiana
Vidette-Messenger, The (Newspaper) - March 13, 1963, Valparaiso,...
Subscription - Vidette Messenger - NewspaperArchie - Mar 13, 1963
... unworthy of the ad- produce it WASHINGTON Republican Sen Norris Cotton after grilling Franklin D Roosevelt Jr on his qualifications to undersecretary of ...
F.D.R. Jr. Faces Tough Quiz on New U.S. Post
Pay-Per-View - Los Angeles Times - ProQuest Archiver - Mar 9, 1963
... to pepper Franklin D. Roosevelt Jr. with some tough questions about his background when he appears before the Senate Commerce Committee next week to be. ...
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ROOSEVELT, Franklin Delano, Jr. - Biographical Information
ROOSEVELT, Franklin Delano, Jr., (1914 - 1988)
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ROOSEVELT, Franklin Delano, Jr., (son of President Franklin D. Roosevelt and brother of James Roosevelt), a Representative from New York; born in Campobello, New Brunswick, Canada, August 17, 1914; graduated from Groton School, Groton, Mass., 1933; graduated from Harvard University, 1937; graduated from the University of Virginia Law School at Charlottesville, 1940; was admitted to the bar in 1942; was called from the Naval Reserve on March 13, 1941, to active duty as an ensign in the United States Navy and served in North Africa, Europe, and the Pacific; discharged from active duty in January 1946; awarded the Purple Heart Medal and the Silver Star; lawyer, private practice; vice president of President Truman’s Committee on Civil Rights in 1947 and 1948; chairman of mayor’s committee on unity in New York City in 1948 and 1949; delegate to Democratic National Conventions in 1952 and 1956; elected as a Liberal Party candidate to the Eighty-first Congress, by special election, to fill the vacancy caused by the death of United States Representative Sol Bloom (May 17, 1949-January 3, 1951); changed from a Liberal to a Democrat on January 3, 1951; elected as a Democrat to the Eighty-second Congress and to the succeeding Congress (January 3, 1951-January 3, 1955); was not a candidate for renomination in 1954, but was unsuccessful for the Democratic gubernatorial nomination; unsuccessful candidate for election for attorney general of New York in 1954; engaged in the automobile import business in 1958; appointed by President Kennedy as chairman of Appalachian Regional Commission, 1963; appointed by President Kennedy as Undersecretary of Commerce, 1963;
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Alaska Governor Sarah Palin
About the Governor
Governor Sarah Palin made history on Dec. 4, 2006, when she took office. As the 11th governor of Alaska, she is the first woman to hold the office.
...Prior to her election as governor, Palin served two terms on the Wasilla City Council and two terms as the mayor/manager of Wasilla. During her tenure, she reduced property tax levels while increasing services and made Wasilla a business friendly environment, drawing in new industry...
...Sarah Heath Palin arrived in Alaska with her family in 1964, when her parents came to teach school in Skagway. She received a bachelor of science degree in communications-journalism from the University of Idaho in 1987. Palin, who graduated from Wasilla High School in 1982, has lived in Skagway, Eagle River and Wasilla.......
...Prior to taking office, Palin served on numerous boards and commissions throughout the state. She was active in her family’s pursuits – including serving as a sports team mom and school volunteer. She also runs marathons.
Palin is a lifetime member of the NRA and enjoys hunting, fishing, Alaska history, and all that Alaska's great outdoors has to offer....
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Sarah Palin's husband receives summons in state trooper investigation | World news | The Guardian
Palin's husband receives summons in state trooper investigationDaniel Nasaw and Suzanne Goldenberg in Washington The Guardian, Saturday September 13 2008
Alaska's legislators shook up the presidential race yesterday with a vote to subpoena Todd Palin, the husband of Republican vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin, to question him about whether she sacked the state's police chief in order to settle a personal score.
The demand to interview Todd Palin was the latest move in a state senate investigation into accusations that Sarah Palin dismissed state public safety commissioner Walter Monegan because he refused to sack a state trooper caught in a messy divorce with Palin's sister. Palin maintains she let Monegan go over a budget dispute.
If the investigation finds that Palin used her influence as governor to further a family matter, it could threaten McCain's bid for the presidency. The Republican party has sought to portray Palin, Alaska's governor since December 2006, as a corruption fighter.
Stephen Branchflower, the former prosecutor conducting the inquiry for the state senate, did not seek to subpoena the governor but has said he would like to interview her. Todd Palin was one of 13 people the panel voted to subpoena. The state senate panel rejected efforts by two of its Republican members to delay the matter until after the November 4 election. Their report is due next month. The investigation began in the weeks before McCain selected Palin as his running mate . The Republicans say the inquiry is politically motivated.
Monegan says that Palin, her aides and her husband, a commercial fisherman and oilfield worker, approached him and complained that trooper Mike Wooten was still employed by the department. Palin fired Monegan in July, and Monegan has publicly said he believes the firing was connected with his refusal to remove Wooten.....
washingtonpost.com
Palin E-Mails Show Intense Interest in Trooper's Penalty
By James V. Grimaldi and Karl Vick
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, September 4, 2008; Page A27
EAGLE RIVER, Alaska, Sept. 3 -- Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, the running mate for GOP presidential candidate John McCain, wrote e-mails that harshly criticized Alaska state troopers for failing to fire her former brother-in-law and ridiculed an internal affairs investigation into his conduct.
The e-mails were shown to The Washington Post by a former public safety commissioner, Walter Monegan, who was fired by Palin in July. Monegan has given copies of the e-mails to state ethics investigators to support his contention that he was dismissed for failing to fire Trooper Mike Wooten, who at the time was feuding with Palin's family. ....
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In 1963, republicans attacked FDR Jr., as "unqualified", even for appointment to a relatively minor office, after JFK appointed him as undersecretary of the commerce dept. because his law firm had accepted a fee for services from a Latin American dicator and FDR Jr., as a law partner, received some of that legal fee as income, he had lost his driver's license after five minor infractions, several not even related to his actual driving, and he was susequently arrested for driving while under suspension....oh yeah.....and he was involved in a business related tax payment dispute with the IRS over which year a payment and penalty were due....yet the grandfathers of the current republican generation declared FDR Jr. to be unqualified to hold even minor office.... even though the man was the son and namesake of the US president who led the country during the great depression and during WWII, and he himself was a wounded and highly decorated war hero, a Harvard grad and a law school grad and practicing attorney and three term US congressman.
When did republicans and other conservatives abandon the high ethical and competence standards of their grandfather's in favor of this....not only in favor of it, but quick to vigorously and enthusiastically defend it all? You don't want to be dismissed as hypocrites, and you want to be taken seriously in your arguments.....but....as Dan Froomkin chided political reporters....c'mon....what choice, when considering your reactions to Palin, her qualifications, and behavior and decisions taken in "troopergate".....do you actually leave, the rest of us?
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Exclusive: Chief Fired by Palin Speaks Out - Washington Post Investigations
She took office in December 2006 and appointed Monegan, who'd just retired as Anchorage police chief after five years, to be public safety commissioner...
Anchorage Police Department - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Today the Anchorage Police Department is the largest police department in Alaska serving a population of roughly 227,000 in a service area encompassing 159 square miles. There are several specialized units including Canine, Special Weapons and Tactics (SWAT), Homicide Response Team, Hostage Negotiations Team, Bomb Team, School Resource Officer (SRO), Crisis Intervention Team (CIT), Identification Section, Data System Section, Records Section, Traffic and Crime Prevention Unit. APD's Homicide Response Team has been nationally recognized for their techniques and solvability rate.
McClatchy Washington Bureau | 08/30/2008 | Fired official: Palin talked to me about ex-brother-in-law
Posted on Saturday, August 30, 2008
ANCHORAGE — Alaska's former commissioner of public safety claims that Gov. Sarah Palin, John McCain's pick to be vice president, personally talked to him on two occasions about a state trooper who was locked in a bitter custody battle with the governor's sister. ...
...The controversy raises questions not only about whether she abused her authority as governor, but about her administrative abilities. Palin's replacement for Monegan, Chuck Kopp, was forced to resign just two weeks after he was appointed because of a sexual harassment complaint that had been filed against him when he was the chief of police in Kenai, Alaska.
Palin, in a news conference announcing Kopp's resignation July 24, said she was unaware that the Kenai city council had reprimanded Kopp as a result of the complaint. She wouldn't discuss how her staff had vetted Kopp before naming him to replace Monegan three days after Monegan was fired.
Palin apologized for the chaos that the Monegan dismissal and the Kopp resignation had caused. "This has been a tumultuous week in the Department of Public Safety, and as your governor, I apologize," she said at the news conference.
Monegan claims his refusal to fire Wooten was a major reason that Palin dismissed him.
Kenai, Alaska - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
As of the census[4] of 2000, there were 6,942 people, 2,622 households, and 1,788 families residing in the city.
Palin Administration Names New Public Safety Commissioner | Alaska Superstation -- Alaska News, Weather and Sports -- Anchorage, Fairbanks and Juneau
Palin Administration Names New Public Safety Commissioner
Jamey Kirk
Story Updated: Jul 14, 2008 at 7:38 PM AKDT
Anchorage, AK - Kenai's own chief of police will no longer serve and protect the people of Kenai. Charles "Chuck" Kopp will now focus his energies on the safety of both Kenai residents and the citizens of the rest of the state.
On Monday, Gov. Sarah Palin named Kopp Public Safety commissioner. The new head of the state's Department of Public Safety has replaced Walt Monegan, who was fired by the governor. Palin said she wanted the department to head in a new direction, with new leadership.
Speaking on Kopp's behalf, the governor said the he has dedicated his career to public safety, and shares her commitment to strengthening communities and combating drug and alcohol problems in rural Alaska.
Kopp, 43, told Soldotna radio station KSRM that this is a, "great privilege to serve the people of Alaska in this capacity."...
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So....to sum it up.....from the collective, bizarro POV you have signed onto.... sudden dismissal of the former chief of police of the department in the state's largest city, from the post as chief of the state Department of Public Safety, suddenly and without further explanation.....NONE OFFERED TO THIS VERY DAY, by Gov. Palin, in favor of the immediate appointment, apparently unvetted or poorly vetted, of the chief of a police depatment of a rural town populated by less than 7,500 people.....yeah....that Change needed to get done, ASAP, didn't it? And it effing lasted less than two weeks!
Ottopilot, mojo, jorgelito, am I even assuming correctly that you want to be taken seriously here, in political discussions? There are degrees of respect, as far as voting decisions anyone takes. The degree of respect is earned, it doesn't just come automatically.
As Dan Froomkin and history make very clear, Palin is a poor, unqualified choice, even if some are willing to argue otherwise. Chief Monegan was clearly much more qualified to head state public safety, than Chief Kopp was....these are obvious conclusions, guys....and it isn't like it isn't pointed out to you, over and over.....you simply refuse to consider the obvious!
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