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Originally Posted by KnifeMissile
What do you mean? Why did you "co-opt the word 'logical' for your definition?" "There are necessarily instances where your definition would contradict the formal one" just as much as mine would.
I was merely suggesting a more useful meaning of the word...
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My point was that the particular work you chose to use already has a specific meaning that is useful.
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I agree that it's useful to define our terms. I just don't want to argue about them...
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I think that whether we know it or not, most arguments are arguments about how a particular word or issue is defined. Such things are important.
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It depends on what you mean by "appealing." I don't find the idea that Jerry Falwell was an influential man the least bit appealing but I believe it. How is this possible, according to your theory?
As I was saying, people believe many things they don't want to believe. Aesthetically displeasing ideas are believed all the time. Your theory doesn't hold up against this evidence...
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I think you're being a bit narrow about the scope of what constitutes appeal. I can find something unappealing in the short term, yet suffer through it because I find that the net result of suffering though it appealing.
I never said that everything everyone believes is something that they find appealing.