09-05-2008, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by abaya
Yeah, I'll chime on these topics if that thread gets started... I'm stepping into the car in about 2 minutes for a weekend trip away, so will see what's evolved when I get back.
Ace--don't worry, we most likely won't get anywhere with each other's opinions, and that's just par for the course around here. It's also why I need a trip away.  |
Again.....it was "started"....hours ago.....all you need to do it to react to this:
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...... here's the thing that's important to acknowledge: If Americans are upset with the war in Iraq today, it's mainly because it failed. If we could have "ended evil" with this war, it would have been a good thing. It goes back to the joke you began with: If we have to destroy the world in order to purify it of evil, that's all right. It's the key to the apocalyptic mindset that Robert J. Lifton has written about so eloquently, in which the destruction of the Earth can be an act of purification. The destruction of Iraq was an act of purification. Even today, look at the rhetoric that's unfolding as we begin to talk about ending the war in Iraq. It's the Iraqis who have failed. They wouldn't yield on their "sectarian" agendas. These people won't get together and form a cohesive government. Now, we're going to let them stew in their own mess. We're going to withdraw from this war because they're not worthy of us.
That's the mainstream Democratic antiwar position! America is a city on a hill, exceptional; so, if we do it, by definition it must be virtuous. If we've gone to Iraq and all hell's broken loose, it may be a fiasco, but in origin it can't be our fault because we were motivated by good intentions.
Now, put all of that in the context of this astounding religious resurgence….....
-James Carroll Sept., 2007
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