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Old 09-03-2008, 09:47 AM   #74 (permalink)
aceventura3
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Originally Posted by dc_dux View Post
I agree that the discussion about the daughter may be over the top..at least some posts. IMO, much of it could have been avoided if McCain/Palin had been up front about it on the day of her selection.
Her daughter being pregnant has no relevance to the issues of VP qualification.

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As is often the case, the cover-up compounded the problem of the original act...no one to blame for that but themselves.
Cover up? Just about everyone interested in knowing about the preganancy in Alaska knew the girl was pregnant. Was Rev. Wright a "cover up"? what is the standard used to determine what is a cover up?

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But, is it vicious to point out that Palin:
None of those points are vicious. However, there is a double standard. Palin being a woman, a conservative woman, is being treated different in the media than if she had been male.

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Or ace's claim that Obama and all democrats are either liars or ignorant?
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I have been specific with justification for my view and I still hold it. I explained how I cam to the conclusion. I asked for input from others looking for help in seeing the errors in my view. My conclusion is my opinion on policy issues directed at those who take positions on those policy issues. There are clear patterns of unintended consequences to liberal policy positions and often empty rhetoric is used to "sell" the public on those policy positions. I acknowledge when Republican politicians are being dishonest or purely political in my view. I have even called Bush and McCain on it, i.e. Bush support of the Farm Bill and Mccain's seeming lack of conviction that sometimes guides his positions or changes in his positions. I honestly state what I believe and I have been open to changing those views on some issues.

My view regarding liberals being liars or ignorant was general at first ( not targeted to any particular individual), and later became more specific with, for example, Obama as I learned more about his positions and who his advisers are. My attacks against John Edwards where specific and about the contradictions between his lifestyle, how he made his money compared to his war on poverty. My attacks on Gore were again specific regarding his whining about how Bush "stole" the election and his inaction as VP on the issue of global warming. I have never attacked family, or individuals on non-policy related issues. However, I do admit that I can be vicious and that I can lack tact, but the regulars on this forum already know that.
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