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Old 08-23-2008, 09:22 AM   #55 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by forseti-6 View Post
The massive national debt incurred in the last six years or so is more a result of the war in Iraq than tax cuts. The last figure I've read is $166 billion. Tax cuts or not, the national debt is ballooned from the war.
The war in Iraq has cost less than $1 trillion so far...the national debt has increased by nearly $5 trillion since the tax cuts.


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Our allies will see us as a farce of what we used to stand for if Obama is elected. Obama wants to make this country in the image of Europe - a socialist state. Will they have a better image of us? Yes, but at what cost?
Our allies have pretty much turned against the Bush (McCain) approach...and as much as they can say publicly, want to see a less belligerent US that consults with them rather than bullies or strong-arms them into compliance.

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And I think a lot of money that is lost from taxes will be made up when McCain battles to reduce or eliminate pork barrel spending and useless government programs.
Over rated rhetoric...pork is an insignficant portion of the federal budget....not that it shouldnt be cut, it just wont make much difference.


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I think McCain's plan on subsidizing health care is a good one. It gives the ultimate choice on provider to the patient, while not jeopardizing the medical personnel.

Obama's plan for universal health care will destroy the world's greatest health care system. Many doctors in the profession (I have a quite a few friends in the medical profession and they echo this) will simply leave the profession if they are forced to work under a similar system as say Canada or the UK.
McCain's plan takes incentives away from employer based plans...which now represent nearly 2/3 of all those insured. His plan would give you a $2500 individual tax credit ($5000 for families) to buy health insurance outside of your work place....good luck on getting comprehensive health insurance for your family that costs only $5000/yr!

If you are healthy and think you (and your family) will be healthy in the future and only want very basic and limited coverage, McCain's plan may be cheaper in the short term..if you or a family member have a chronic illness or sudden medical emergency...it will cost you significantly more.

Obama's plan is to cover all kids w/o insurance (by including them in the widely popular SCHIP) and builds on employer-based plans with incentives to employers to keep premiums lower and to provide the means for small businesses w/o plans to join pools to provide coverage to employees. I cant imagine how this destroys our health care system.

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Bottom line is, we're not going to war with Iran. We don't have the the man power. I know this, you know this, McCain knows this.
The Bush/McCain rhetoric, re: Iran and Iraq has significantly harmed the US image among moderate Muslims in the Middle East and around the world and has served as a recruiting tool for al Queda and other terrorists groups (thats right out of a NIE)
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