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Originally Posted by Rekna
If you want to be technical about it then be technical.
Technically the US is a nation.
Technically the US with/without the consent of others invaded Iraq and Afghanistan.
Technically it is the 21st century.
Therefore the statement "In the 21st century, nations do not invade other nations" is technically false.
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OK...
- Technically the US is a nation. Correct
- Technically the US with/without the consent of others invaded Iraq and Afghanistan. Incorrect. The U.S. as an independent nation did not perform an independent act of aggression by invading Afghanistan or Iraq. This was a coalition of nations prosecuting a violating fellow member of the U.N. according to the laws and resulting resolutions of the U.N. While countries are indeed members of the U.N., the U.N. exists as a group of nation members that agree to cooperate under international law. The U.S.A. did not invade Iraq, the international organization U.N. invaded Iraq
- Technically it is the 21st century.Correct
- Therefore the statement "In the 21st century, nations do not invade other nations" is technically false.In the literal interpretation of that single quote taken out of context, you are partially correct. The implication in the context of McCain's overall commentary was that civilized countries in the 21st century do not act unilaterally as Russia acted against Georgia.
So are we still arguing McCain's senility?
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Originally Posted by dc_dux
Otto...the intent of my posts was not to rehash the legitimacy or effectiveness of the invasion and occupation of Iraq.
My point.....the US not well-served by characterizing every foreign policy "crisis" as the next WW III.
We have had a fear monger (when speaking to US citizens ) and a bully (when speaking to the rest of the world) in the WH for the last eight years and his actions have alienated allies and, to some extent, generated empathy for our adverseries.
IMO, a different approach to foreign policy is long-overdue and I dont think McCain offers that approach.
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dc... agreed, who wants to rehash the U.N. military actions in the mid-east and the subsequent peacekeeping initiative all over again.
While I don't agree with your assessment of fear mongering and bullying in the WH, the specter of WWIII is always over-kill (by repubs or dems). I was focusing on the legitimacy of the specific senility charge against McCain.