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Old 08-18-2008, 08:09 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by ottopilot View Post
dc and Rekna... I'm not disputing or agreeing with your viewpoints on how things turned out in Iraq. I'm only pointing out that the official invasion of Iraq was executed as an official U.N. initiative, not a unilateral act of aggression by George Bush... unlike the unofficial unilateral invasion of Georgia by Russia.

If we are analyzing John McCain's senility based on the accuracy of the statement:

...then his statement was technically accurate based on the factual perspective that military action in Iraq and Afghanistan was a multilateral punitive action through the U.N.

Just because we don't like something, our opinions, popularity polls, unprosecuted assumptions and accusations do not change why the U.N. coalition acted against (violating U.N. member) Iraq. Until the official record is changed and Bush convicted for war-crimes, framing McCain's statement as inaccurate or senile is nothing less than propagandized political spin. If McCain implied otherwise, he would be criticized for not understanding the facts (and therefore incompetent), charged with spinning, or accused of being senile. It's how the game is played.
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Good point. Iraq is a perfect example of exhaustive world diplomacy, world diplomacy failing, then following through with the "big stick". Remember, there are two parts to that quote.
Otto...the intent of my posts was not to rehash the legitimacy or effectiveness of the invasion and occupation of Iraq.

My point.....the US not well-served by characterizing every foreign policy "crisis" as the next WW III.

We have had a fear monger (when speaking to US citizens ) and a bully (when speaking to the rest of the world) in the WH for the last eight years and his actions have alienated allies and, to some extent, generated empathy for our adverseries.

IMO, a different approach to foreign policy is long-overdue and I dont think McCain offers that approach.
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