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Old 08-12-2008, 02:05 PM   #10 (permalink)
Vigilante
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I'll try to keep religious and even spiritual opinions out of this.
God, for me, is beyond definition. I try valiantly to understand what God may be, but then I come up with more questions. From this perspective, God may be infinite in all aspects, including the numbers of questions you may raise trying to understand such a presence, if you could define God as a presence to begin with.

Here is one that slapped me in the face a little. I dive into these things sometimes mentally, intentional or not.
We are made up of what we perceive as atoms. From organism to animal to organ to tissue to cell to organelles to molecules to atoms. From there we have a vague notion of what is going on (or none at all). Electrons...I don't know. Protons supposedly are made up of quarks, if I remember right. We can study a proton I think, but we can't study an electron due to the heisenberg uncertainty principle. You can know where it is but not its' speed, or you can know its' speed but not where it is. They are mutually exclusive.

Ok past that, let's get weird. Let's say a quark is the smallest measurable particle we can muster. It probably isn't, but that's as far as my knowledge goes. Now think about the our universe and the number of quarks it must hold. Not the earth, because it's small. 1 million earths fit into the sun. Probably a billion or more suns are in our galaxy, and there are probably a billion galaxies. Yet the number of quarks are still finite.

I start imploding here. Some questions are rhetorical.
What if each quark is its own universe, with set laws of physics and life scattered randomly throughout it? What if each of those quarks in those universes has it's own scale, all the way down to more quarks? What if we, as an entire universal realm, are a quark in another universe? what if we are the middle-man in this, going larger and smaller in opposite directions? Could there be a middle man? Perhaps not. Maybe it's even a circle, traversing outside of space and time to make an infinite loop of existence. If so, how many could there be to make the loop? What about alternate realities? Would the loop be one plane to an infinite number of realities on another level of existence? If each reality made a circle, could the circles make a sphere of infinite loops of alternate universes and create an immeasurable ...electron orbital?

And then, what if that is but one electron orbital.....in another universe.

That is how far I do not understand God. I don't go further than that. I don't even know if I could.

This leads me to alot of differing ideas on how anyone on this measly spec of dust could say "God cares if you cuss". I laugh at the thought. But then I wonder...."could God care?" If God is truly this undefinable infiniteness, and each universe (as an infinite number of them, dying and recycling on a timeless scale) contains an apsect of God, could he bring himself down to our level? My answer would be yes. If he can make a quark, he can care. But does he? I guess it's relative, based on what you feel is right, or on what you believe. Sometimes it feels right at the time and wrong later. Sometimes vice versa. If IF! the universe recycles, do we, both here and on a universal scale? This is not exactly on topic though, but a digression. I said I'd try to keep my spiritual thoughts out of it.

For me, God is what you make God out to be. Allah is no more right or wrong than God, and neither is Jehovah. Do you believe God is a man, limited to one heaven? That works. Do you believe God is part of several entities? That works too. God, being infinite cannot, to me, be one being for a universal truth, when truth is the relative factor. I can try to define what I think is the truth, but then it is relative to me and irrelevant to another.
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