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Old 08-10-2008, 05:11 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by luciferase75 View Post
You have gone way too deep into the thought process. You are taking it in a truly objective fashion, where even society's values don't affect your judgment. That is too far, IMO - objective to a fault. Keep an open mind if you like, but keep your values as well. Make it a subjective thought process, because being subjective gives every person their uniqueness. If everyone suddenly became objective similar to your example, there would be only twisted rationalities and, well, objective chaos. Even nature, with its blind uncaring feel, has set rules that animals don't break except in certain circumstances.
I don't think she's gone too deep into it at all.

While I buy your illustration of the potential consequences of rampant, unbridled objectivity, I really don't buy the notion that societies 'norm' should be our gauge of judgment, our scales of right and wrong. Evidence being that different cultures have different values and thresholds, and some just aren't gonna jive with one's personal compass no matter how much objectivity s/he strive for.

When you're at the point of questioning a lot of the basis which your life and the world around you is supported, it's gonna cause some turmoil. But no matter how objective we are, we're still the same judgmental human we always were, and we'll develop new biases instead of relying on the old ones. Personally I tend to think of this as a good experience, as I'm not a fan of blind trust and dogma.

We're gonna pick up bias from our surroundings no matter what, but beyond that kind of passive, filtered osmosis, direct peer-derived rationalization is trouble waiting to happen.

A lot of history's ugliest times of boodshed come to mind.
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