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Tilted Cat Head
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Location: Manhattan, NY
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Originally Posted by Willravel
So you're saying that zoning should take into consideration homeless people?
BTW, it's not education it's laziness. As I said before, "Show me someone who doesn't know an apple is healthier than a cheeseburger and I'll eat my hat." Short of mental disabilities, everyone is aware of at least basic facts about nutrition. So why doesn't everyone have a healthy diet? They're lazy. They don't want to do the legwork I did for this thread (which probably amounts to about 15 minutes web surfing or maybe 20 minutes at a supermarket). They grab what they want to eat and then go.
Or they do a bit of homework and eat healthy.
I make more than enough money to spend $36 a day on healthy food, but I don't. I looked at my budget and found that I average only about $300 a month for myself on groceries. Why, that's $10 a day and I'm not even trying to shop cheap (as a matter of fact, I shop at Whole Foods and Trader Joe's most of the time, which means my food is a bit more expensive). It's not $3 a day, of course, but I'll probably live well into my 80s and have a higher quality of life. If I really budgeted, I'm sure I could bring my spending down below $150 a month—Ch'i (my little brother) spends even less than that, maybe $130. That's $4.33 a day, and he eats even healthier than I do.
BTW, Cynth, do you know of anyone who spends $1080 on him or herself for food? Not for a family (I could feed a family of 6 on that), but just him or herself? That study is obviously wrong.
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again, you continue to focus like a laser on one small aspect and forget that the author states people buy a BLEND of types.
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Although people don’t knowingly shop for calories per se, the data show that it’s easier for low-income people to sustain themselves on junk food rather than fruits and vegetables, says the study’s lead author Adam Drewnowski, director of the center for public health nutrition at the University of Washington. Based on his findings, a 2,000-calorie diet would cost just $3.52 a day if it consisted of junk food, compared with $36.32 a day for a diet of low-energy dense foods. However, most people eat a mix of foods. The average American spends about $7 a day on food, although low-income people spend about $4, says Dr. Drewnowski.
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actually yes, there are families that do spend about that in if not more in groceries. The Revis family in North Carolina Food expenditure for one week: $341.98
What the World Eats, Part I - Photo Essays - TIME
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Originally Posted by roachboy
thanks cyn--it'll take a bit of cross-mapping to make sense of this.
seriously, though, this is a class geography question and not one of motivation or its correlates in petit-bourgeois morality.
if you can't get to outlets which sell decent food, if you're stuck in a work-grind that gives you very little time to tool about and if the public transportation system is not good and there are fast-food places around that sell shitty food for cheap, then the problem is obvious and has everything to do with problems of distribution.
this is not unique to l.a.
if you think about it at a remove, that many poor urban neighborhoods around the country find themselves without grocery stores but with fast food restos, it amounts to a decision on the part of lovely lovely capitalism to abandon the well-being of these folk except insofar as they can be relieved of their cash by owners of fast-food franchises. it is an ugly reality.
an ugly market market reality.
in other contexts, a conservative might say "think of the children" but curiously that line hasn't come up here i wonder why that is.
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It is a combination of that rb. Grocery stores may not be open or not have fresh fruits or vegetables. My local market in Rego Park Queens in the 90s was like that. I had to go to a butcher and a produce stand to get fresh ingredients. Unfortunately I worked until 7PM and the butcher and produce was long closed. Alternative was a small bodega that had really expensive produce which was also not very good selection.
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Last edited by Cynthetiq; 08-07-2008 at 08:59 AM..
Reason: Automerged Doublepost: changed US family to $341
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