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Old 08-05-2008, 09:29 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Willravel View Post
Atreides88, the caloric value of gasoline is astounding. It's much more efficient than anything you can even get at McDonald's. But does that mean drinking 2000 calories of gasoline a day will give you the same energy as 2000 calories of a balanced diet? No? Is that because the form it comes in is unfriendly to the human body? We have trouble digesting the form the calories come in? It's the same thing, only to a less extreme degree, with unhealthy foods that have a high caloric count. So yes, it's how you digest it and it can make all the difference in the world.
No, you're again wrong. You cannot compare calories from chemicals to foodstuffs. It's not a fair comparison at all. In fact, it is the fallacy of equivocation since you are making them appear equal in some fashion when in any reality they are not.

But you can compare edible goods to edible goods. Calories are calories, what is important is nutrient density to the caloric density, which is obviously the point you are trying to make.

But again, it's MORE expensive to make low calorie high nutrient density foodstuffs than it is to make high calorie low nutrient.

Why? Because nutrients cost money. Think of supplements and how much those cost for the raw ingredients of nutrients. Densely packed nutrients are expensive. It is expensive to extract and refine first and foremost. There's no ability to dispute that.

So you have something with empty calories, you want to add some sort of nutritional benefit to it, it will increase the costs of the product. This is simple economy of cost of raw materials. You can see it in fortified cereals. Surgary cereals are less expensive than "healthy" alternatives. But when you look at the nutritional information you find that it has just as many calories and almost as much sugars.
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