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Originally Posted by Willravel
It's the same principle. The property belonged to a group of individuals for the benefit of the group.
Yes and no. I hoped to make a profit, but I entered into the agreement with the shared understanding that we would rent at a lower rate than the market average, which was somewhat more altruistic. Yes, I wanted to make a profit, but I also wanted to help people. I like to have my cake and share it too.
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When you have profit gains it provides you with the ability you may have not had before- helping people. Profit. Think about that word and what it means.
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My statement stands. There are people with all the ability and drive in the world, who work very hard, harder than those around them, and they still can fail. It is fantasy to assume that someone who works smart and harder will absolutely succeed. This is a fantasy that's common among libertarians.
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Mine stands as well. I lived it and continue live it. Perhaps if I hadnt already tasted freedom I would be content living in the Netherlands. As far as it being as fantasy-
Alex Rogan: I cant be a Starfighter, Im just a stupid kid from a trailer park.
Lot man: If thats what you think, then thats all your ever going to be.
Remind me to never go to your lemonade stand.
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You weren't watching Trump in the 90s, I take it. Did you know that in 1994, the Donald had about $900m in personal debt and about $3.5b in business debt? It took massive bailouts (something libertarians don't like) and selling off of most of his empire to dig himself out of his horrible decisions. His luck really started turning around when he started to appear in media. A combination of his TV career and some lucky investments (hotels in Hawaii and Chicago) managed to prop him back up for the moment. Still, if you've watched his TV show you can see that he is not the keen business mind he once was. I'd love to meet with the Trump of the 70s and 80s. He's not in that position anymore because of his poor business decisions.
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Yeah I watched him- and watch him. Im not seeing what your seeing, but then again youd rather go to a hobo for advice.
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Massive hyperbole.
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OK OK you have me there. We are not that advanced in space travel.