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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
Business partnerships differ greatly than universal communes you seem to be referring to often. It sounds like you want it both ways here.
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It's the same principle. The property belonged to a group of individuals for the benefit of the group.
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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
For profit right?
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Yes and no. I hoped to make a profit, but I entered into the agreement with the shared understanding that we would rent at a lower rate than the market average, which was somewhat more altruistic. Yes, I wanted to make a profit, but I also wanted to help people. I like to have my cake and share it too.
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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
OK I’ll add working smarter and harder, and risk. I could not afford college either, that’s what loans are for.
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My statement stands. There are people with all the ability and drive in the world, who work very hard, harder than those around them, and they still can fail. It is fantasy to assume that someone who works smart and harder will absolutely succeed. This is a fantasy that's common among libertarians.
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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
I don’t know who Flava Flav is. Trump was rich before the TV shows, and you know that. Many of todays wealthy have lost their fortunes and regained them over and over again because they were willing to take risks. The beginning of any company is built on risk. Anywhere you go for services or products is a company that at one time didn’t exist. Someone took the initiative and risk to become an entrepreneur and provide them to you.
The fact that you would literary take financial advice from a hobo over Trump really speaks volumes and sums it up well.
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You weren't watching Trump in the 90s, I take it. Did you know that in 1994, the Donald had about $900m in personal debt and about $3.5b in business debt? It took massive bailouts (something libertarians don't like) and selling off of most of his empire to dig himself out of his horrible decisions. His luck really started turning around when he started to appear in media. A combination of his TV career and some lucky investments (hotels in Hawaii and Chicago) managed to prop him back up for the moment. Still, if you've watched his TV show you can see that he is not the keen business mind he once was. I'd love to meet with the Trump of the 70s and 80s. He's not in that position anymore because of his poor business decisions.
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Originally Posted by Sun Tzu
OMG. (I know you don’t believe in God- just an expression) I hate the Bushes, but what your saying here . . . .
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Massive hyperbole.
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Originally Posted by Supple Cow
But life is a fixed game.
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It's luck of the draw, not fixed. I could get a straight flush or I could get nothing. That's completely out of our hands, but the idea that everyone is competing is horrible. If everyone is looking to win, than there will be big winners and equally there will be big losers. What's the harm in seeking to reduce the extremes in each direction? I'd gladly prevent multi-billionaires if it meant no more homeless people.
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Originally Posted by Supple Cow
There is no such thing as equalizing it - only applying reverse fixes, which almost always does more to cause new problems than to fix the old ones. This statement about unfixing the game seems to be based on the premise that all people should have equal privileges instead of the more reasonable expectation that people should have the same rights.
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Does it do more harm? Can you demonstrate that?