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We entered into a contract where our collective investments purchased real estate. We each shared a portion of ownership which was directly related to our investment.
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Business partnerships differ greatly than universal communes you seem to be referring to often. It sounds like you want it both ways here.
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Yes, but it's still collectively owned. The direction of the company is often set by democratic ruling of those who own portions of the business.
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For profit right?
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The WHO list, which is well supported, claims that many countries have better health care than the US. France has the best by leaps and bounds. The same was concluded by the Commonwealth Fund back in January of this year. France isn't perfect, of course, but the french system is cheaper per capita and is substantially more effective. Still, even Canada has better health care than the US.
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This is really a thread in and of itself. Ill respond when I have more time.
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I know people who disprove the "hard work = better pay" idea. I know a lot of people, actually. They worked hard, got good grades but couldn't afford college and couldn't get decent jobs. $30,000 a year in the SF bay area isn't really enough for a family to live on, and should my friend leave the bay area, he'd make even less. Poverty happens, and sometimes it happens despite an individual's best efforts. I know this to be fact, not opinion.
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OK I’ll add working smarter and harder, and risk. I could not afford college either, that’s what loans are for.
It is fact.
I’m sure you could continue to lengthen the list of things of why people don’t achieve financial liberty. It reminds me of the Arizona desert wasp. It’s an insect that digs a hole in the ground and builds a subterranean dwelling. Its process for gathering food is to venture outside its dwelling to find nourishment. Once it has found its meal it brings it to the mouth of its cave. It leaves the food at the entrance to go look for predators inside its home first. Once it has deemed its home environment safe, it returns to the entrance and grabs its food.
A scientist followed these wasps around for two years observing and taking notes. The scientist did an experiment of moving the food while the wasp was inside. The results were interesting. The wasp would come out see the food was moved, grab the food, and complete its safety ritual again. The scientist kept doing this over and over. The wasp literally dies of starvation with food in its mouth.
There is opportunity everywhere for everyone in every avenue of work or profession. You have go getters that will seize it and people complaining about being victims. I think you mentioned you played D & D before; everyone is their own dungeon master. Tell me your profession and I could formulate at least 10 ways to be financially successful at it.
Does it require thinking out of the box? Yes. Does it require risk? Yes-
Is failure possible? Yes-
Would you eventually succeed if your intention of doing so was 100%?
Will do you have the ability to be a millionaire at some point in your life?
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Yes, but those three things do not always lead to financial success.
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Perhaps, but with that kind of thinking . . . they never will.
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Donald Trump is the king of bad investments. I'd sooner take financial advice from a hobo. The only reason he's rich now are his TV shows. He might as well be Flava Flav minus the rap career.
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I don’t know who Flava Flav is. Trump was rich before the TV shows, and you know that. Many of todays wealthy have lost their fortunes and regained them over and over again because they were willing to take risks. The beginning of any company is built on risk. Anywhere you go for services or products is a company that at one time didn’t exist. Someone took the initiative and risk to become an entrepreneur and provide them to you.
The fact that you would take financial advice from a hobo over Trump really speaks volumes and sums it up well.
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Again, you are getting the GROUP and the INDIVIDUAL confused. Take an honest look at an office building and think about what makes it run. Somebody has to do the landscaping. Somebody has to clean the toilets. Somebody has to work at the cafeteria. Those jobs aren't going to earn high wages. Maybe the person is lazy. Maybe they are doing this for the short term. Maybe this is the person's fullest potential. People who do those jobs may move on to bigger and better things but that crappy job remains.
My interpretation is that a libertarian sees these people and thinks "that sucks" and moves on. I think that this is an unethical way to build a nation.
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GROUP and INDIVIDUAL . . . hmmm . . . refer to the video clip below. Yes, there are assholes out there. There are also good people.
I’m not getting confused about the issue. I started working when I was 13. I lied about my age for employment. I have worked some of the most disgusting, grueling, kick in the ass kind of jobs out there. Really think about the elements you have stated here.
Maybe the person is lazy. Maybe they are doing this for short term. Maybe this is what the person (thinks) their fullest potential is. People who do those jobs may move on to bigger and better things but that crappy job remains.
OK- So what’s your point? What is stopping the toilet cleaner from starting their own toilet cleaning company and have other toilet cleaners working for them? What’s stopping the toilet cleaner from becoming a brain surgeon? Who is going to be more successful: the person that finds all the reasons they can’t do something or the person that doesn’t take no for answer.
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I was born into a low income family. Jenna Bush was born into the wealthy elite. With freedom, we work with the cards we are given. With equality, we're given a few extra cards so that the game isn't fixed. Therein is the difference.
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OMG. (I know you don’t believe in God- just an expression) I hate the Bushes, but what your saying here . . . .