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I think the ladies who are getting rather worked up about this topic would do well to "agree to disagree".
Obviously your viewpoints are not the same and it's definitely okay to discuss things in a civil and adult manner.
That being said, the tone being used is getting aggressive and a little personal. It's not something we want to see on this board.
Please calm down.
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Whether we write or speak or do but look
We are ever unapparent. What we are
Cannot be transfused into word or book.
Our soul from us is infinitely far.
However much we give our thoughts the will
To be our soul and gesture it abroad,
Our hearts are incommunicable still.
In what we show ourselves we are ignored.
The abyss from soul to soul cannot be bridged
By any skill of thought or trick of seeming.
Unto our very selves we are abridged
When we would utter to our thought our being.
We are our dreams of ourselves, souls by gleams,
And each to each other dreams of others' dreams.
Fernando Pessoa, 1918
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