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Old 07-24-2008, 02:26 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Atreides88 View Post
I call shenanigans on your claim. I've never heard of a single person being held back because of anything other than their own personal choices.
I don't know why this concept is so hard for people to realize:

THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH GOOD JOBS IN THE US THAT PROVIDE ADEQUATE HEALTH CARE BENEFITS!! Plain and simple. We can give anecdotes about this guy that worked so hard or that guy that was lazy but in the end it makes no difference. If 150 people are competing for 100 jobs there will be 50 jobless ones.

The fact is that SOMEONE has to be there to run the cash registers at Wal Mart. Someone needs to serve us our food when we go out to eat. Someone needs to do all the unskilled jobs out there. It doesn't matter how much the individual applies himself or herself. The individual may move on to a better job but that job will remain and needs to be filled by someone.

It is a total cop out to lay out the standard "those people don't work hard enough". That canned response totally ignores the reality of the situation.
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I don't think that taking a government hand-out is seen with as much disdain as it used to be. I know plenty of people who will take money from wherever it comes from, and see welfare as just another way of getting paid. This seems to be predominantly in inner-city communities among single parent homes, and among the black community. I know, I'll probably be deemed a racist for saying it, but there it is.

I've also known plenty of people too proud to accept hand-outs. Mainly among my buddies who were first-generation immigrants from Mexico et al, who would rather scrap and survive and build themselves up on their own merit rather than somebody else's.
That's right. The darkies just line up to take welfare but the Mexicans just won't have any of that.


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