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Old 07-24-2008, 07:06 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by ratbastid View Post
This "Obama the Mystery Man" meme is getting really old.

His web site has pages and pages and pages of policy on it. If you wonder what he thinks... go find out. Guy's a huge proponent of open government, and he's walking the talk. Only an agenda to keep the "mystery man" meme in play would have someone wonder aloud what Obama thinks, rather than going and reading his policy statements.
Some of his positions on the surface seem to contradict other information, also his fundamental principles and values get lost in his speeches and the text too me. In another thread I asked about his position on the right to own handguns, which still is not celar to me (which made me think to start this thread because there are some other areas I not clear on as well). Is his values and principles still evolving or do we really know what to expect from him. In the past, even a guy like Carter, agree or disagree, you knew what to expect. I knew what to expect from Bush (although others were surprised). Even Clinton, we knew, he was an opportunist and would do what was popular. I am not comfortable with a President who is still evolving. So, if it is just me and others understand the things that I don't, they can help me.
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Originally Posted by Willravel View Post
Victory is leaving the place in good enough shape that they can run themselves and they won't be housing "terrorists".
This sounds like what Bush said regarding Iraq. Agree or disagree with the initial invasion it seems that even after non-Iraqi terrorists flocked to Iraq to fight he US in Iraq, Obama was against those goals for Iraq. Why is Afghanistan different? Also,to what degree does he consider the remaining terrorist in Afghanistan a threat? How far is he willing to go with Pakistan? He is critical of tough talk, how does he expect to get anything done without at some point stating what he is willing to do?
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