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Old 07-20-2008, 02:35 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Since I'm mentioned by name, I just thought I'd chime in with confirmation that I wholeheartedly support moving this thread to where it belongs. If I'd have seen this before cynthetiq, I would have moved it here myself.

Moving this to Paranoia in no way detracts from the quality of the thread or the information provided. The subject matter itself dictates that this is not a discussion of politics but one about a conspiracy 60+ years ago. As such, I find it an interesting read but not a discussion I particularly want to join, namely because I lack the energy to do the research necessary to present a rational counter-point.
From the OP:
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- TIME
Monday, Aug. 11, 1941

Died. William Rhodes Davis, 52, the oil world's "mystery man" of World War ii; in Houston, Tex. In 1938 he fixed the barter deal which gave Germany and Italy some 20 million barrels of Mexican oil, some of it expropriated from U.S. and British oil companies, and in late 1939 he came back from Germany with a negotiated peace conference proposal.
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British WWII spymaster, Stephenson, aka "Intrepid" William Stephenson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia head of British espionage in the western hemisphere, later, in his dictated memoirs, allowed that he did it..."removed" William Rhodes Davis: Outing the Senator: Sex, Spies, and ... - Google Book Search
Here is some pretty persuasive documentation that Goering's "agent" in the US, William Rhodes Davis,

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pryor rhodes marquis childs - Google Book Search
Dark Horse: A Biography of Wendell Willkie - Page 171
by Steve Neal - Biography & Autobiography - 1984 - 371 pages
After the election, it was learned that William Rhodes Davis, ... Willkie told
Marquis Childs that he had never heard of Davis until Pryor told him about
...


pryor rhodes scarsdale - Google Book Search

After a week, Pryor took Marshall to the Scarsdale home of fifty-one-year-old
William Rhodes Davis
, an independent oil operator. ...

Exquisite Befuddlement - TIME
Exquisite Befuddlement
Monday, Jan. 06, 1941

.....One hundred and seventy prominent U. S. citizens petitioned the President to aid England more. Dog-Fancier Albert Payson Terhune made a prophecy on his 68th birthday: The U. S. will get in the war this year. The Saturday Evening Post grumpily declared the Johnson Act might as well be repealed, since common sense had been. Anne Lindbergh's book* was described by the Nation, as "most reactionary and pernicious." Her mind was described by Louisville Courier-Journal Editor Herbert Agar as "painfully divided against itself" and as producing "some ugly examples of confused thought." Historian Allan Nevins, writing in the New York Times, implied that "her wave of the future" was "a wave of the past.".......

.... Organized hastily three weeks ago in Iowa was a new isolationist group (No Foreign War Committee) headed by Verne Marshall, editor of the Cedar Rapids Gazette, a dark, hard-bitten veteran of World War I and of numerous local crusades. (In 1936 Marshall and his Gazette managed to have 31 Iowa State officials indicted, and the Gazette was awarded a Pulitzer Prize for "most meritorious service to the community." Same day the Iowa Supreme Court dismissed the indictments on technical grounds.) Marshall moved to Manhattan, took luxurious headquarters (recently Willkie's) for his committee, at once paid $41,000 for full-page advertisements in 60 papers in 51 cities, asking for money to fight interventionists. Another ad was set for this week in 79 papers in 57 cities.

Marshall, who once described himself as a "rabble-rouser" of the first World War, planned a St. Louis mass meeting soon after Jan. 1, to be addressed by Colonel Lindbergh. ....

pryor gave lindbergh - Google Search
CHARLES A. LINDBERGH AND FAMILY: An Inventory of Their Papers at ...
Samuel F. Pryor, Executive Vice President to Pan Am for 28 years, was the cause of Lindbergh's coming to Maui. Pryor gave Lindbergh 5 acres to build his ...
CHARLES A. LINDBERGH AND FAMILY: An Inventory of Their Papers at the Minnesota Historical Society

Gibbon Secret Rests Near Maui Church - International Primate ...
Six diminutive, weathered cement markers lie between the graves of Pryor and Lindbergh in the historic church cemetery located on the edge of Kipahulu town. ...
Gibbon Secret Rests Near Maui Church - International Primate Protection League ~ IPPL
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WM. R. DAYIS DEAD; NOTED OIL MAN, 52; Brought Home German 'Peace Plan,... - Free Preview - The New York Times
WM. R. DAYIS DEAD; NOTED OIL MAN, 52; Brought Home German 'Peace Plan,' in Which Roosevelt Was to Be Mediator, in 1939 PROPERTIES WORLD WIDE Supplied Oil Reserve of the Nazis and Italians After Mexican Appropriation

August 2, 1941, Saturday

Section: OBITUARIES, Page 15, 1547 words
was the grandfather of recently recalled California governor, (California is the most populous US state...) Joseph Graham "Gray" Davis Jr., a democrat:

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Paid Notice: Deaths MORELL, DORIS MEYER - New York Times
She is survived by her loving husband Armand M. Morell and devoted children; Joseph G. ''Gray'' Davis, Jr. and his wife Sharon; Doris Davis Ross and her ...
query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E00E7DB153AF93BA35753C1A9609C8B63

Transitions / passings | The San Diego Union-Tribune

DORIS MEYER MORELL, 83: The mother of former California Gov. Gray Davis, who actively campaigned for her son during several key elections, died last Sunday at Palm Beach Gardens Medical Center in Florida of complications from lung cancer, Davis told The Associated Press Monday. He said he was with his mother when she died. “My mother was a remarkable woman, very strong but with a big heart,” Davis said in a telephone interview from his Los Angeles home. “She was the source of much of my inspiration, much of my motivation.” Born in Buffalo, N.Y., Mrs. Morell was attending Marymount College in Tarrytown, N.Y. when she married her first husband, Joseph G. Davis. The couple had five children and lived in Los Angeles from 1955 to 1963, when they divorced and she returned to her home state. Mrs. Morell later married Armand Morell and worked with him in his furniture business, first in New York and later in Florida. She often returned to California to campaign for her firstborn son, Gray, whenever he ran for political office. She was by his side during the 2003 recall election, which he lost to Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.

joseph graham davis and currie boyd davis - Google News Archive Search
MISS DORIS J. MEYER IS WED IN GREENWICH; Bishop Mdntire Officiates...
$3.95 - New York Times - Nov 30, 1941
... to Joseph Graham Davis, son of Mrs. Paul C. Matthews of Bronxville, N. Y., ... Currie Boyd Davis, brother of the bridegroom, was best man. ...
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The New York Times: Beta Search currie davis rhodes - The New York Times
BARBARA BRYANT'S TROTH; BronxviMe Girl Will Be Married to Currie ...
Miss Barbara Gay Bryant, to Currie Boyd Davis, son of Mrs. Paul G. Matthews of Greenwich, Conn.. and the late William Rhodes Davis. ...June 29, 1947
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https://www.fastcase.com/Google/Star...716bb958dbb92e
Davis' Will, In re, 219 N.Y.S.2d 533, 31 Misc.2d 270 (N.Y. Sur., 1950)

The following is a portion of the document you requested. Please subscribe to view the entire document.

Page 533

219 N.Y.S.2d 533

31 Misc.2d 270

In re DAVIS' WILL.
Application for the Judicial Settlement of the Final Account
of Proceedings of James Lee KAUFFMAN, the Executor of the
Last Will and Testament of William Rhodes Davis, Deceased,....


....Page 534

James Lee Kauffman, New York City, executor, pro se; Vaughan & Lyons, by Jeremiah P. Lyons, New York City, of counsel.

Fink & Pavia, New York City, for Giovanni Antonelli; Lloyd I. Isler and Donald J. Siskind, New York City, of counsel.

Bleakley, Platt, Hart & Fritz, New York City, for Joseph Graham Davis and Currie Boyd Davis; Charles L. Brieant, Jr., New York City, of counsel.

Root, Barrett, Cohen, Knapp & Smith, New York City, for Marjanna Davis Bogan; Whitman Knapp, New York City, of counsel.

Otto C. Jaeger, White Plains, special guardian.

JOHN J. DILLON, Surrogate.

One Giovanni Antonelli has objected to that portion of the executor's account which rejects his claim for $20,000 with interest from April 1, 1935. The claim was [31 Misc.2d 271] originally filed with the executor on or about January 3, 1956. In form it appeared to be a common-law claim for work, labor and services performed for the decedent in Italy prior to his death on August 1, 1941. Schedule D-2 of the account indicates that the claim was rejected for reasons explained in Schedule I. Certain interested parties were authorized to serve replies to the objection, and pleaded the statute of limitations. On the scheduled hearing date the objectant moved to amend his claim and his objection to the account. The motion was granted with leave to the petitioner and other interested parties to introduce proof at a later date, if so advised, in refutation of the evidence supporting the claim as amended. The objectant introduced his proof. Counsel for those opposing the claim thereupon moved

Page 535....
So, what does all of this demonstrate about the practice of journalism, in the US in the near and the present era, compared to say....in the '30's and '40's?

I have presented STRONG support for the accuracy of an intriguing set of circumstances....Nazi ties of a close associate and business partner of George H Walker and of Prescott Bush.....Samuel F Pryor, as well as his son, Sam Jr. Sam Jr. is documented to have been the go between in introducing Hermann Goering's "agent", Nazi moneyman, William Rhodes Davis, to 1940 republican presidential candidate, Wendell Wilkie. Sam Pryor Jr. was such a close friend of Goering medal recipient, and Nazi apologist Charles A Lindgbergh, that he gave Lindbergh 5 acres of his estate in Hana, Hawaii.... and the two are buried in the cemetery there, "yards apart".

....And, I can find nowhere else, the documentation that I have provided that makes a persuasive case, IMO, that William Rhodes Davis. Nazi agent and moneyman, supplier of oil to the Nazi war machine, allegedly "removed"....murdered....by British spymaster, Stephenson, aka "Intrepid", is the grandfather of recently recalled California governor, "Gray" Davis.

Is any of this "news"? Where "TF", is the press?

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