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Locobot · 07-20-2008, 01:46 AM

and also:

Waterboarding is torture
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/f...hitchens200808

And also we have an attorney general who is unwilling to say whether or not he thinks waterboarding is torture.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/...ing/index.html

I've heard similar things from people like what inBoil describes. It's difficult for me to imagine the long series of ethical boners that would lead someone to hold beliefs like that. You'd think that the compulsory reiterations of U.S. history that our education system requires for someone to achieve a high school diploma would inhibit people from holding such beliefs, but then a basic education is not something at all to be taken for granted.

Why is it that the people who don't trust the government to distribute food stamps equitably are so often the same people who blithely think the government should be trusted to torture?

There isn't really a "debate" over torture--at least not one that isn't lost by the pro side again and again and again. The only real debate that I see to be had is over why people who advocate torture are allowed to hold power, how they should be prosecuted, and what their punishment should entail (i.e. how many years in prison they should spend).

07-20-2008, 01:46 AM	#4 (permalink)
Locobot is awesome!	and also: Waterboarding is torture http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/f...hitchens200808 And also we have an attorney general who is unwilling to say whether or not he thinks waterboarding is torture. http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/...ing/index.html I've heard similar things from people like what inBoil describes. It's difficult for me to imagine the long series of ethical boners that would lead someone to hold beliefs like that. You'd think that the compulsory reiterations of U.S. history that our education system requires for someone to achieve a high school diploma would inhibit people from holding such beliefs, but then a basic education is not something at all to be taken for granted. Why is it that the people who don't trust the government to distribute food stamps equitably are so often the same people who blithely think the government should be trusted to torture? There isn't really a "debate" over torture--at least not one that isn't lost by the pro side again and again and again. The only real debate that I see to be had is over why people who advocate torture are allowed to hold power, how they should be prosecuted, and what their punishment should entail (i.e. how many years in prison they should spend).