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Old 07-13-2008, 01:55 PM   #22 (permalink)
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host, I know you want people to think. But you also want them, after reading what you write, to think your way, yes? That's why you put in all the effort you do, I presume - your working assumption has to be that, presented with the facts as you understand them, the conclusion is so clear that others perforce must come to similar conclusions. Otherwise, I would assume, you wouldn't be putting in the effort you do. And I can see it really is a lot of effort.

I have commented elsewhere that it's rare someone with strong opinions will have his/her mind changed by posts in a forum like this, though there may be some marginal increase in tolerance of other views, because seeing why people disagree with you on certain points can help a person appreciate and respect other points of view even if s/he doesn't accept them. I still think that's true.

I could, if I chose, set about to try to give factual rebuttals of many of your points, including about the "PTB," but my general read of the situation is that you and I proceed from very different premises in our reasoning. I subscribe to the chaotic life/shit happens theory of existence, and you subscribe to a "stuff doesn't just happen" theory. So we'd end up talking past each other a lot, which is why I didn't comment on your PTB post. Also, you think equality of economic outcomes is an important goal, and I think it's not only futile but dangerous. So again, we'd be talking past each other because our starting points are different. That doesn't mean I don't respect what you do - you give a lot of thought and effort to your posts, and how can I not respect that? And I have learned plenty from reading your posts, too. I just don't much of the time draw the same conclusions you do.

And that's why I didn't comment on your PTB post.
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