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dc_dux · 07-10-2008, 08:29 AM

host...I am not trying to bullshit you or anyone.

But I think Greenwald is....by playing on the fears of the worst possible scenario (mimicking a Bush tactic) of having the next president being as corrupt and unethical as Bush and a Congress as unresponsive and irresponsible as the 107th-109th

I recognize the shortcomimngs of the bill, particularly the retroactive immunity. But even some leading Democratics who voted against it -- Leahy, Boxer, Schumer, Whitehouse -- have acknowledged it provides better oversight and more safeguards against abuse than the PAA.

And, IMO, a fallback to the orginal FISA law would be a greater loss for the Democrats by playing right into Bush/Republican hands that the Dems "are weak on national security."

My goal is to elect a Democratic president, expand a Democratic Congress....and then FIX IT!

07-10-2008, 08:29 AM	#164 (permalink)
dc_dux Location: Washington DC	host...I am not trying to bullshit you or anyone. But I think Greenwald is....by playing on the fears of the worst possible scenario (mimicking a Bush tactic) of having the next president being as corrupt and unethical as Bush and a Congress as unresponsive and irresponsible as the 107th-109th I recognize the shortcomimngs of the bill, particularly the retroactive immunity. But even some leading Democratics who voted against it -- Leahy, Boxer, Schumer, Whitehouse -- have acknowledged it provides better oversight and more safeguards against abuse than the PAA. And, IMO, a fallback to the orginal FISA law would be a greater loss for the Democrats by playing right into Bush/Republican hands that the Dems "are weak on national security." My goal is to elect a Democratic president, expand a Democratic Congress....and then FIX IT! __________________ "The perfect is the enemy of the good." ~ Voltaire