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Old 07-07-2008, 08:00 AM   #44 (permalink)
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ace, you've been a long term supporter of the fanatically pro-Israel, neocon agenda...
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http://baltimorechronicle.com/2008/070208Paul.shtml
GOVERNMENT:
Rep. Ron Paul Assails Congress's "Virtual Iran War Resolution"
by Congressman Ron Paul

....Now the one issue that I do want to mention tonight is a resolution that is about to come to this floor if our suspicions are correct, after the July 4th holiday. And this bill will probably be brought up under suspension. It will be expected to be passed easily. It probably will be. And it is just more war propaganda, just more preparation to go to war against Iran.

This resolution, H.J. Res 362[listed as H. Con. Res 362 online] is a virtual war resolution. It is the declaration of tremendous sanctions, and boycotts and embargoes on the Iranians. It is very, very severe. Let me just read what is involved if this bill passes and what we're telling the President what he must do:

This demands that the President impose stringent inspection requirements on all persons, vehicles, ships, planes, trains and cargo entering or departing Iran, and prohibiting the international movement of all Iranian officials.

This is unbelievable! This is closing down Iran. Where do we have this authority? Where do we get the moral authority? Where do we get the international legality for this? Where do we get the Constitutional authority for this? This is what we did for ten years before we went into Iraq. We starved children—50,000 individuals it was admitted probably died because of the sanctions on the Iraqis. They were incapable at the time of attacking us. And all the propaganda that was given for our need to go into Iraq was not true.

And it is not true today about the severity [of the need to attack Iran]. But they say, "Yeah, but Ahmadinejad—he's a bad guy. He's threatened violence." But you know what? Us threatening violence is very, very similar. We must—we must look at this carefully. We just can't go to war again under these careless, frivolous conditions....



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/muhamm..._b_111121.html
How To Convince Your Congressperson Not To Attack Iran
Posted July 7, 2008 | 04:24 AM (EST)

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Read More: Congress Resolutions Against Iran, Naval Blockade, Politics News


Two bipartisan Resolutions that are being widely construed as tantamount to a declaration of war on Iran are expected to be voted on by both houses of the U.S. Congress this week.

U.S. House of Representatives Resolution (HR 362) and Senate Resolution (SR 580), while non-binding and explicitly stating that they are not granting the Bush administration the authorization to attack Iran, call on the Administration to take a much harder line on Iran. This would include a naval blockade of Iran's ports, which would certainly be interpreted as an act of war.

Both the Senate and House Resolutions are based on factual errors, exaggerations, half-truths, and even outright lies. Therefore, it is of utmost urgency that Americans who oppose an attack on Iran know what the Resolutions actually contain, so that they can lobby their Congressional representatives, with facts in hand, to stop the Resolutions' passage in both the House and the Senate.

To that end, here is the guide to understanding Congress' "Iran War" Resolutions, as well as the errors, falsehoods, and exaggerations within them. Actual sentences from the Senate and House Resolutions are in italics; my rebuttals follow in normal text.....



http://www.newsweek.com/id/47337?tid=relatedcl
Countdown to a Showdown: Part II
Two American congressmen have proposed a 'quarantine' they think could stop Iran's mullahs from building nukes. It's a high-risk strategy.
By Christopher Dickey | Newsweek Web Exclusive
Jan 25, 2006 ...
....but you also espouse "drilling our way" out of the current oil price crisis, even though slack demand and a dramatic, immediate increase in US domestic petroleum prices has been met with the opposite movement in price that you say should happen.

The foreign policy you fully support result in the "resolution" now being contemplated in congress, described above. But you are concerned about high oil prices, and you're sure that the policies of the Bush admin. "are not responsible".... IMO, ace, you're chasing your tail.

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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru
....These same guys are in oil, and they are in it as huge chunks of multi-million dollar portfolios. That and precious metals, which is another story when it comes to supply, demand, and expanding economies. They know a good thing when they see it.

Look forward to $200 a barrel.
Only war in the ME or US wage inflation driven demand increases would make $200 (US) oil possible, IMO....with ramping unemployment now, the second factor ain't likely to happen.. I am predicting a worldwide, deflationary depression that will influence oil to drop below $55 bbl, so soon, it will shock "the guys in oil", and wipe out a significant portion of their investment gains....

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