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Old 07-06-2008, 10:37 PM   #34 (permalink)
Sun Tzu
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Originally Posted by dc_dux
Both Bill O'Reilly and the CIS inflated the numbers to suit their agenda...which should come as no surprise.

According to the Bureau of Justice stats:
"Overall. 6.4% of state and federal inmates in 2005 were not US citizens and it has been relatively stable since the mid 1990s (page 5)....NOt 32% and rising as O'Reilly claims.

Of the total prisoners in federal, state and local prisons and jails, 15% are hispanic (table 10-page 8)....i think it is reasonable to conclude that most are citizens, not illegal aliens, if you combine this with the first fact cited above......and certainly NO where near the 29% that CIS claims.

Prison and Jail Inmates at Midyear2005 (pdf report)


Prison and Jail Inmates at Midyear 2005 (main page)


When you cite O'Reilly as a source, you should expect to be challenged. Based on his record for BS, why wouldnt you want to verify anything he says...unless perhaps it supports your presupposed position.

The parameter most acceptable is simple....if you post an OPINION...anything goes....if you post "FACTS".....then FACT-CHECK!
Thats what I said. I agree there will and should be challenges. His statement was founded. I did see the statement he mentioned a couple of years ago. So he is not a reliable source. Who is? Do we have an accurate vote count every four years? Surely there wouldnt be any misrepresentation there.

The federal entity General Accountability Office has it at 27%.
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d05337r.pdf

The Bureau of Prisons has it at 4.2% for 2005.
http://www.bop.gov/news/research_pro...prcamp_cjr.pdf


Im sure we will be able to find several other figures. If government agencies are the last line of credability, CIS was asked to reort its figures by the US House of Representatives- so they find validity there. Personally, I have a hard time believing anyone.
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