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genuinegirly · 07-06-2008, 04:47 PM

Re: water rationing at restaurants.

I have a couple of times requested water alongside a fountain drink. I am given the fountain drink, but not the water. Just bad service, but at times I think they've drilled the water rationing concept into the servers' minds a bit too much.
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Re: op

I've definitely seen first-hand how "green noise" can be destructive.
Many of my friends consider environmentalism a sort of religious-like cult. They are bothered by the fact that people are telling them what to do. So they do the opposite whenever convenient.

Every dinner hosted by my husband's work for the past year has included a prominent scientist discussing global warming. At the last one I attended in December, nearly everyone shifted in their seats as the chemist began the same old discussion - after the speaker left the room, we didn't come across anyone who actually listened. They were burnt out. So were we. The problem? These scientists didn't gear their talks to their fellow-scientist audience. It sounded like the same mumbo jumbo crap they would present to politicians. That's not what would have reached these people in the first place, and to only be bombarded with it quarter after quarter is merely maddening.

Yes, there are conflicting messages. Yes, we are required to use our own judgment. No, we shouldn't allow others to make us feel guilty for our weighed decisions. Unfortunately some people who care about reducing energy use are insanely outspoken, persistent, and judgmental.

Dangit people - if you're overwhelmed say no. Treat them like you would a religious solicitor and slam the door in their face. You only become overloaded if you place yourself in that sphere. Watch CNBC instead of CNN. Read Smithsonian and Discover instead of National Geographic. Pull yourself away from the sources of frustration and encourage your burnt-out friends to do likewise.

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genuinegirly Eat your vegetables Super Moderator Location: Arabidopsis-ville	Re: water rationing at restaurants. I have a couple of times requested water alongside a fountain drink. I am given the fountain drink, but not the water. Just bad service, but at times I think they've drilled the water rationing concept into the servers' minds a bit too much. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Re: op I've definitely seen first-hand how "green noise" can be destructive. Many of my friends consider environmentalism a sort of religious-like cult. They are bothered by the fact that people are telling them what to do. So they do the opposite whenever convenient. Every dinner hosted by my husband's work for the past year has included a prominent scientist discussing global warming. At the last one I attended in December, nearly everyone shifted in their seats as the chemist began the same old discussion - after the speaker left the room, we didn't come across anyone who actually listened. They were burnt out. So were we. The problem? These scientists didn't gear their talks to their fellow-scientist audience. It sounded like the same mumbo jumbo crap they would present to politicians. That's not what would have reached these people in the first place, and to only be bombarded with it quarter after quarter is merely maddening. Yes, there are conflicting messages. Yes, we are required to use our own judgment. No, we shouldn't allow others to make us feel guilty for our weighed decisions. Unfortunately some people who care about reducing energy use are insanely outspoken, persistent, and judgmental. Dangit people - if you're overwhelmed say no. Treat them like you would a religious solicitor and slam the door in their face. You only become overloaded if you place yourself in that sphere. Watch CNBC instead of CNN. Read Smithsonian and Discover instead of National Geographic. Pull yourself away from the sources of frustration and encourage your burnt-out friends to do likewise. __________________ "Sometimes I have to remember that things are brought to me for a reason, either for my own lessons or for the benefit of others." Cynthetiq "violence is no more or less real than non-violence." roachboy Last edited by genuinegirly; 07-06-2008 at 04:48 PM.. Reason: clarity