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Old 07-01-2008, 07:02 AM   #138 (permalink)
aceventura3
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I am confused by what you want. Can you simplify it.

For the record:

I have not seen any evidence of an operational relationship between 9/11, Iraq and Saddam. I have not seen any quotes stating there was an operational relationship between 9/11, Iraq and Saddam. I have seen quotes, linking Iraq and al qaeda, Saddam and al qaeda, Iraq and terrorists, Saddam and terrorists. As far as I know Iraq and Saddam have always operationally acted independently of al qaeda and visa versa. However, I act independently of you and through TFP we have been interacting with each other, there is no evidence that I have provided you with aid and support - but if there was evidence that you were in my house, people could easily make a circumstantial case that we have a relationship and that I may have provided you with aid and support.

I did provide information where Zarqwai was reportedly in Iraq. I have not seen any information showing that Zarqwai had direct communication with Saddam.

Any case made, given the available data made public, regarding a relationship between al queda, Zarqwai, and Saddam, Iraq is circumstantial. I am not sure a person needs to say that every time or any time they make an argument based on circumstantial evidence. To me it becomes self evident when I evaluate the argument.

To try to address you question I did a google search typing in the following:

"Bush statements regarding relationship between iraq and al qaeda"

The first item listed was the following, from CNN:

Quote:
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush on Thursday said that there were "numerous contacts" between Iraq and the terror network.

Bush, in a brief appearance before reporters, was asked why the administration insists that Saddam Hussein and al Qaeda had a relationship "when even you have denied any connection between Saddam and September 11, and now the September 11 commission says that there was no collaborative relationship at all?"

The president answered:"The reason I keep insisting that there was a relationship between Iraq and Saddam and al Qaeda, because there was a relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda."

Bush reiterated that the administration never said that "the 9/11 attacks were orchestrated" between Saddam Hussein and al Qaeda. "We did say there were numerous contacts between Saddam Hussein and al Qaeda," he said.

He referred to meetings in Sudan between Iraqi intelligence agents and al Qaeda and said Saddam had connections with organizations considered by the United States to be terror groups -- including Abu Nidal. That group is a spinoff from the Palestinian Liberation Organization.

In the lead-up to the invasion of Iraq, Bush had made stronger statements alleging cooperation between Iraq and al Qaeda. In a October 2002 speech, he said, "Iraq has trained al Qaeda members in bomb-making and poisons and deadly gases."

The initial report from the 9/11 commission, which held a public hearing Wednesday and Thursday, said Osama bin Laden "explored possible cooperation with Iraq during his time in Sudan, despite his opposition to (Saddam) Hussein's secular regime."

It says the contact was pushed by the Sudanese "to protect their own ties with Iraq." After bin Laden asked for space in Iraq for training camps, the report said, "Iraq apparently never responded."

It also said:"There have been reports that contacts between Iraq and al Qaeda also occurred after bin Laden had returned to Afghanistan, but they do not appear to have resulted in a collaborative relationship."

"I always said that Saddam Hussein was a threat," Bush said. He was "a threat because he provided safe haven for a terrorist like (Abu Musab al-) Zarqawi, who is still killing innocents inside of Iraq."
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/06/17/Bush.alqaeda/

How much clearer can Bush be in addressing this question?
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