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Old 06-29-2008, 11:25 AM   #13 (permalink)
james t kirk
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Originally Posted by forseti-6
#1 I disagree Iraq is/was a failure. While many Americans, and certainly not the media will say Iraq was a success, if you look at it from the Iraqi standpoint, they have much more freedoms and opportunity then they've ever had. Is it still a mess there? Yes, but it's constantly getting better. I think Iraq will be Bush's main legacy and that's where I think the way he is viewed will change.

#2 Well it's not the 'so call War on Terror' it *is* the War on Terror. I think this was a great success on Bush's behalf. He pushes a loosely organize Al Qaeda into disarray. They don't have the ability to mount large attacks (due to their inability to fund and train on a large scale) as see on 9/11.

I feel Afghanistan should have received more attention, although it will come back to that as Iraq is cleaning up and improving.
I guess it depends on where you get your information.

See, according what I am seeing, watching, and reading, Al Qaeda is more organized, more powerful, and has garnered more sympathy in the muslim world than ever before. (See Pakistan for example.)

Iraq is a civil war waiting to happen and things were far better under Saddam because he managed to keep a lid on the Sectarian violence.

Afghanistan is all but a losing battle to which no-one seems really that interested in doing what it takes. When Nato leaves, nothing really will have changed in Afghanistan. They basically despise westerners, and western values (now more than ever.) At best they might tolerate being in your presence.
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