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Originally Posted by Willravel
People don't give mental health professionals enough credit. Instead of putting a murder amongst murderers, don't you think they'd have a better shot of being a contributing member of society after they served their sentence?
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I worked in behavorial health for five years with the worst of the worst. Everything from men that brutally raped their own mothers to other things I wont even mention. Yes, there are some truly sick people out there. Most everyone I worked with would agree there are generally two groups when it comes to the forensic side: those that are so far gone, its doubtful they will ever be sane enough for the community- and the manipulators. With speaking about the later of the two; they belong in jail. That proably sounds as though I think there are criminals in the midway area that cant be rehabilitated. Well IMO it is hard to define what normal is. Just watching the news it is easy to see it is a mad world we live in. To me it is not a matter of whether or not they can be rehabilitated, but they dont deserve the opportunity.
A local example is 2 years ago a couple of men were driving around Maricopa County at night doing what they called their favorite pastime: recreational violence. They were shooting anything that was breathing for laughs: horses, dogs, and people. Several innocent people were killed. That is insane behavior. It seems apparent to me these guys are crazy, but the insanity plea didnt go anywhere for these two, and we will find out in the next few months if they will get the death penalty. That fact the death penalty in AZ didnt deter these guys doesnt mean much as I agree with the state in they dont deserve to be kicking it in therapy groups for the next 10-12 years with popcorn and movies on the weekends. They took innocent lives for the fun of it.
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If someone killed my whole family, I'd not want them dead. I mean I'd want to kill the guy as an instinct, but I would even be willing to speak on his behalf if it meant not killing him.
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Wow. I had to read that a few times to process it. I can't say that it would be a bad society if everyone thought like this. That is a very . . . harmonious mindset. I'm completely opposite. I can't say that I would be happy if put in a scenerio like that, thats why I hope no one ever invades my property. Partially because the way the laws are in AZ, and partially because I have no way of being completely sure what an intruder's intentions would be or if they have a weapon. If it means putting someone down that could potentially bring harm to family, Im shooting to kill. If its between my loved ones and a person with bad intentions, I choose my family.
I have person seen 2 people get tazered and pull the barbs out with no effect. The same thing happened to a Phoenix police officer recently when he tazered a man only to have they guy pull the barbs out, and have his own tazer turned on him. The man killed the police officer before being put down by another cop. I'm not gung ho about this, I wouldnt have a smile on my face and I hope it never comes to that.
I will say I am disappointed in the courts ruling. While the death of that twisted excuse for a human would have not changed the fact that he most likely fucked the rest of her life up- it would assure he would never again be able to destroy an innocent life. As far as the death penalty for an effective deterent for child rapists---we will never know as he would have been the first.