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Old 06-26-2008, 08:29 PM   #17 (permalink)
Willravel
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Work in one for 6-12 months civil or forensic, you may have a different view afterward. A majority of the criminals end up on the forensic side which will always be state ran. Talk to the nurses and techs that work with that population, look at the results. Most state facilities have a mission statement of rehabilition for for civil and criminal. Criminals are there either to establish whether or not they are competent enough to stand trial, or they were found guilty but insane. Either way the "rehab treatment" is nothing more than a softer jail with required doses of antipsychotic behavior modifying medications. If they follow the treatment plan they are given the possibilty exsists to be transfered to the civil side within half their sentencing. Once there the road to being released is fairly easy. With that said ask the people that work with them every day, how many of their "patients" do they feel are playing the system. The eye for an eye philosophy is obviously not one you agree with; so are there any limits to your mindset on that?
You've never met my mother. She's a really nice lady, still teaches piano (for fun). She's also a PhD in psych and can read people. It's funny, too, because she never had a BS meter before going int grad school and then working with criminals. 6 months and she knew if I was even telling a half truth. 12 and she knew if anyone was telling a half truth.

People don't give mental health professionals enough credit. Instead of putting a murder amongst murderers, don't you think they'd have a better shot of being a contributing member of society after they served their sentence?
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I believe in other discussions I heard you state you would not have a problem defending yourself or your family with a firearm ( I might be wrong ). If thats the case, it means you would kill if it means stopping harm to your family. But if you were 5 minutes too late and the police caught the killer 2 blocks from your house your mindset would go from killer instinct wanting to possibly rehab the person?
No, the opposite, actually. I would never, ever, under any circumstances, take the life of another human being. I'd sacrifice myself to save innocent people especially my family, but I will not take a life. This tends to piss off people who are gun proponents because we don't have that common ground, the feeling that defending one's self or family earns them the right to take a life.

If someone killed my whole family, I'd not want them dead. I mean I'd want to kill the guy as an instinct, but I would even be willing to speak on his behalf if it meant not killing him.
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