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Sun Tzu · 06-26-2008, 03:51 PM

I'm not a parent yet, but hope to be one at some point in the future. I have had the opportunity to work in emergency room and neonatal ICU environments. I saw some pretty bad cases of child abuse and a small number of child rape. The patients of the rape cases where all molested by other adolescents. While the number was alarmingly high for abuse inflicted by adults, the rape numbers were low. When I read the court case above I was sickend and angered as Im sure most were. (not at the courts ruling- but Kennedy's actions) IMO ending someone like that (especially if I were the parent)

will, I could be wrong but if I remember right the information you are referring to in numbers really didnt give a break down into child rapists, crimes of passion, premeditated murder did they?

I will admit I am cherry picking what I find within moral boundries and what crosses them- it is good Im not sitting on the Sepreme Court. Between a man that hits another too hard in a bar fight and kills him, another walking in when his wife is having sex with another man and killing him, or a man that rapes a six year girl so brutaly that he causes internal bleeding- an anal protrusion- and taken away her chance to ever have children (not to mention the emotional scarring forever) have significant differences.

Im curious- (putting aside any numbers some of the lowlifes get out and repeat their crime on another child) lets assume a person gets life with no chance of parole. The choice is made to put the convicted child rapist in the general prison population. In a hypothetical scenerio the powers that be know by doing so they are giving him an unofficial death sentence. Do you consider that to be the same as lethal injection? Do they deserve the protective isolation most get? Keep in mind some go to forensic mental health facilities and recieve substandard "rehabilitation" which is really nothing more than psych techs that contain them and give them patio breaks to smoke cigarettes while the others go to jail with no rehab. That certainly does little to deter if at all. Is it about prevention, justice, or a little of both?

06-26-2008, 03:51 PM	#9 (permalink)
Sun Tzu Conspiracy Realist Location: The Event Horizon	I'm not a parent yet, but hope to be one at some point in the future. I have had the opportunity to work in emergency room and neonatal ICU environments. I saw some pretty bad cases of child abuse and a small number of child rape. The patients of the rape cases where all molested by other adolescents. While the number was alarmingly high for abuse inflicted by adults, the rape numbers were low. When I read the court case above I was sickend and angered as Im sure most were. (not at the courts ruling- but Kennedy's actions) IMO ending someone like that (especially if I were the parent) will, I could be wrong but if I remember right the information you are referring to in numbers really didnt give a break down into child rapists, crimes of passion, premeditated murder did they? I will admit I am cherry picking what I find within moral boundries and what crosses them- it is good Im not sitting on the Sepreme Court. Between a man that hits another too hard in a bar fight and kills him, another walking in when his wife is having sex with another man and killing him, or a man that rapes a six year girl so brutaly that he causes internal bleeding- an anal protrusion- and taken away her chance to ever have children (not to mention the emotional scarring forever) have significant differences. Im curious- (putting aside any numbers some of the lowlifes get out and repeat their crime on another child) lets assume a person gets life with no chance of parole. The choice is made to put the convicted child rapist in the general prison population. In a hypothetical scenerio the powers that be know by doing so they are giving him an unofficial death sentence. Do you consider that to be the same as lethal injection? Do they deserve the protective isolation most get? Keep in mind some go to forensic mental health facilities and recieve substandard "rehabilitation" which is really nothing more than psych techs that contain them and give them patio breaks to smoke cigarettes while the others go to jail with no rehab. That certainly does little to deter if at all. Is it about prevention, justice, or a little of both? __________________ *To confine our attention to terrestrial matters would be to limit the human spirit.- Stephen Hawking* Last edited by Sun Tzu; 06-26-2008 at 03:53 PM..