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Originally Posted by Cynthetiq
I've stated it several times.
No politicians aren't different. I'm not surprised that Obama waffles on an issue. He's a politician. It's part of the definition of the game of politics.
I'll even add: flip flop, ride fence, talk both ways from his mouth...
host, if you've followed politics with the intelligence you've got, why are you surprised at this? or is this more because you believe that politicians must do as they say, promised, or what you believe should be right?
Do you believe that American politicians are above being human and suffering the same fates and foils of their counterparts around the world?
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Because.... I'm "on a mission", it sez so in post #7.
I am not the one who has posted in these threads that Obama is a different kind of leader...not your run of the mill politician. I have not urged anyone to "trust him". or to "take him at his word".
Conversely, I have not accused Obama of being "too liberal", or posted that he is "the most liberal member of the senate".
I recall that instead, I've posted that Obama is positioned "to the right of republican president Dwight Eisenhower".... that his call to increase US ground forces by 92,000 troops make him more a militarist, than a reformer.
I'll admit that I have probably been wrong about one thing, in posting my opinions that Obama faces a very difficult task; attracting enough votes to win in the general election in November. I did not expect that he would say or do anything that he and his handlers think will help him get elected. Since last thursday, I've been thinking that he will say whatever it takes....the constitution be damned....
I've posted that I do not see what others post that they see in Obama. Through it all, none of my specifics are answered with specifics. (Disclaimer: This is an example, not an attempt to single out this poster, who usually thoroughly backs up the points he makes in his posts...)
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http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showpos...0&postcount=54
.....So, what about it....dc_dux, I'm asking you because you probably know how to quickly compare this outrageous revision to the language in the recently passed senate bill, the bill the house passed before this one, and to the bill last August that became law for a year and will soon sunset. Is this a new loophole, put in this bill, that works to make the government free from having to justify any elements of probable cause to conduct it's surveillance?
Obama, at least his spokesperson, today....and the house leadership, are not lowering my level of concern:....
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I am used to that happening...especially in the TFP politics forum...