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Old 06-25-2008, 11:52 PM   #97 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by host
Ahem.... is there still room for an ON Topic post on this page?

http://senate.gov/legislative/LIS/ro...n=2&vote=00158
The senate voted on wednesday to proceed to debate on the FISA bill. Those opposing this motion to move closer to a vote on the bill itself, garnered only 15 votes... Obama didn't vote. 80 senators voted to move the bill along, but some, including Reid and Spector, have stated they will not vote for the final version of the bill, if it still includes telecomm amnesty. Obama has said he will do the opposite:

Watch Obama explain, this week, how being against any bill that included telecomm amnesty in January, is consistent with saying now, that he will vote for a bill that includes telecomm amnesty if it comes up for a final vote for senate passage:

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwa...ostid-updateC6





Why is Obama lauded for "standing up to MoveOn.org and the ACLU", instead of the opposite....standing up to Cheney and Bush and their anti-constitutional "take our rights away from us via their maintaining a constant climate of fear" propaganda campaign?

Anybody willing to decipher what Obama's position is, compared to what it was back in January, and why it should not be a cause for concern, now?
I've stated it several times.

No politicians aren't different. I'm not surprised that Obama waffles on an issue. He's a politician. It's part of the definition of the game of politics.

I'll even add: flip flop, ride fence, talk both ways from his mouth...

host, if you've followed politics with the intelligence you've got, why are you surprised at this? or is this more because you believe that politicians must do as they say, promised, or what you believe should be right?

Do you believe that American politicians are above being human and suffering the same fates and foils of their counterparts around the world?
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