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Originally Posted by Willravel
In a discussion about nonviolence you tried to re-frame the discussion by switching to martyrdom and in that same post you compared the man in Tienanmen Square to a suicide bomber.
Two very bright people came to the exact same conclusion about your comparison, Cynth. It may be time for self reflection.
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I understood the point Cynth made.
In my view a pacifist will enjoy the benefits from the past use of violence by others or the potential future use of violence by their neighbors/police/army/etc willing to defend life, liberty and property to fend off those who would otherwise commit violent acts to take those things, while a martyr is at least willing to make a sacrifice. It is easy to be a pacifist when nothing is at risk.