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Tilted Cat Head
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Location: Manhattan, NY
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Originally Posted by Willravel
You should be absolutely ashamed of yourself for comparing the man in Tienanmen Square to a suicide bomber. You're also completely incorrect in comparing them. A suicide bombing is an extremely violent act. Standing in front of a tank with a briefcase is a singular act of nonviolence.
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You seem to see alot of extra words there comparing things. I don't know what your monitor is presenting to you, but I made no such comparison.
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Originally Posted by ratbastid
Cynthetiq, I'm disgusted that you'd reply to "Gandhi and Dr. King" with "suicide bomber". I'm looking to see if there's another word to describe my reaction, but there's really not: I'm disgusted.
Were you deliberately trying to be offensive? Are you so desperate to score points in this argument that you're going to lump the two paragons of NON-violence into the same group with suicide bombers? Really??
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No not at all. I'm not comparing anything. Making note that while pacifists find martyrs acceptable, there are violent people that find martyrs acceptable as well. The ideology of martyr is a challenge since the ideology is not just dying for the cause of good, but dying for a cause. I see no GOOD in the definition listed below. I see "sake of principle" nothing about it being nonviolent or violent.
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Main Entry: 1mar·tyr
Pronunciation: \ˈmär-tər\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English, from Late Latin, from Greek martyr-, martys witness
Date: before 12th century
1: a person who voluntarily suffers death as the penalty of witnessing to and refusing to renounce a religion
2: a person who sacrifices something of great value and especially life itself for the sake of principle
3: victim; especially : a great or constant sufferer <a martyr to asthma all his life — A. J. Cronin>
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