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Old 06-25-2008, 08:59 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru
The nice-guy strategy is for beta males like me. It's a competitive set of traits that convinces women we will stick around for the children.

Our traits include being funny and sensitive, liking children and small pets, and we often clean up after ourselves.

We might not get the most tail, but, hey, it's better than getting none.

We have higher rates of being cuckolded, but as long as we get what we can, we consider ourselves successful enough.
Is there a place for humility in nature? Perhaps you're just another chess player waiting for the rooks to move away from the queen?

Key word? Enough. I dig it. Enough is enough to make ya happy.

I think it's a tertiary motivation: You have better things in life to do than worry about superuberfit offspring. You have places to see and books to read and crafts to construct and food to try and a whole world to experience.

Perhaps the thing that makes us different than mere animals.

We notice the world around us and value it for simply being there.

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I wouldn't define myself or anybody else as a "Alpha Male" or "Beta Male" because there is too much societal control on such activities. I can't be all Alpha Male and bust a cap in guys hitting on my girlfriend, now can I? I'm not all beta male because I... well... let's leave that alone for the moment.



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Originally Posted by roachboy
a) does natural selection "do" things?
i thought it was a kind of inferential construct.
now here it is, moving things about.
but if it moves things about, how is it not just god, except retuned (in this case) with a dickhead biais?

b) ronny james dio?
you mean the substitute ozzy?

this has made something shake in my skull.
i need a beverage.
I define natural selection the inevitable "natural" process operating in the background that gets to poke through and say, "Hi!" every once in a while when we drop the facade of being civilized beings... say, remove the ties that bind such as language and family relationships and increase the hardships of competition for food and mates. Religion, philosophy... mere shingles we use to cover the roof of the "hot animal machine" we eventually retrograde into when circumstances require. Natural selection is very do or die, no? I'm not that noble... if survival depended on it, I'd probably take eating (most of) you if I had the choice between cannibalism or starving to death. Not that TFP is a menu or anything.

Was the combination of neural flavors too much? I know Dio was a stretch. Do you feel the need to stand up and shout like a rainbow in the dark?
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