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Old 06-25-2008, 08:00 AM   #67 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
Do you know what happens when pacifists attempt to end wars?

Lots of them are murdered.

But back to the topic, could this be why the dems approved the new retro immunity?
yep...

murdered...you can't predict what someone will do, even if they don't NEED to doesn't mean that they won't.

Nicole duFresne was murdered in my neighborhood.
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In the early morning hours of January 27th, 2005, duFresne, Sparks, Gibson and Nath were returning home from a night of celebratory drinking. DuFresne had just gotten a new interim job as a bartender at the Rockwood Music Hall. As the group was walking down bistro-lined Clinton St. on the Lower East Side of Manhattan, a group of five young men and two girls approached them. Rudy Fleming demanded money. Sparks pushed his way past, at which point Fleming swung with both hands, striking him across his left temple with a Taurus .357 magnum, which he had been holding pointed downward at the sidewalk. According to Sparks neither he nor anyone else in the group had realized that Fleming had a gun. Another robber, Servisio Simmons, reportedly said, "It doesn't have to be like this. My friend's buggin'. We just want the money."

Fleming took Gibson's purse and cell phone and gave them to the girls, Ashley Evans and Tatiana McDonald. duFresne turned to Sparks who was dazed and bleeding profusely from his left eye, asking if he was OK. He indicated that he was and said "Let's just go". Nath took Sparks by the arm and they ran away, north on Clinton toward Rivington. Gibson turned to follow.

One witness testified that duFresne confronted Fleming, pushing him. Another witness testified that it was Fleming, rather, who shoved duFresne, and that she never touched him. There was a consensus among witnesses that duFresne shouted "What are you still doing here? You got what you wanted. What are you going to do now, shoot us?" Fleming fired once at point blank range, the bullet striking duFresne in the chest and exiting through her back. From further up the block Sparks and Nath ran back, only to find duFresne on her back in the street. She died a few minutes later in Sparks's arms, as Gibson and Nath knelt beside them.
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