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Originally Posted by The_Jazz
Which is exactly what I said. What I left out was that those that made the overture didn't have the power to negotiate or to make a peace at all. It's notable simply because it happened.
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So you're saying someone in the position as Premier of Japan didn't have the power to negotiate a surrender? I think you may need to read up on Japanese government through WWII into post-war.
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In the end, the condition wasn't that the emporer wouldn't be killed, it was that he would remain head of state, even as a puppet. And that what they got. There's a huge difference between the two.
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The Japanese leadership were scared to death of having the Emperor killed by Americans because they knew they'd lose any power they had left over the Japanese people and they were worried about it becoming anarchy. They knew that surrender would only mean something if they could restore order and begin to rebuild, which made the Emperor's life priceless to Japan. It had nothing to do with power because the Japanese people assumed he had power regardless of whether he actually had it or not.
I'm not sure where you're getting your information from.
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The Japanese still had the ability to ferry their troops from China back to the Home Islands.
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Do you know how? Fishing boats. I have a book here at home with amazing black and white pictures of Japanese troops on fishing boats which are headed toward the main island. The fishing boats were privately owned, though, which means a military strike with them would be nearly impossible.
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And the US didn't care any more about the Japanese civilians than the Japanese did. They all cared about the Japanese elite, who made policy.
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How did that effect their decision to nuke Japan after repeated attempts at surrender from the elite in government?
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Originally Posted by Cynthetiq
Sure since you've been reading about WWII since you were a teen, maybe you can shed some light as to the actual reparations that the Japanese paid to the Philippines, Singapore and China. Three countries that have well documented war crimes and thousands that suffered and were killed at the hands of the Japanese.
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Still immaterial to the subject at hand. I don't know what makes you think you can change the framework of the conversation to the Philippines. I'm talking about why the bombs were dropped. You're welcome to continue talking about whatever it is you're talking about.
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You're espousing that justice could be had from courtroom, I have not read of any courtroom that was able to hold responsible any Japanese soldiers for warcrimes. In fact my readings have shed light to the fact that Japan doesn't recognize any of it's nationals to have committed any warcrimes.
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Clearly you didn't do any real research at all. I have 4 books that only deal with the Tokyo Trials. I'll tell you what, google "Tokyo Trials". Even wikipedia has a pretty decent entry for it.