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Originally Posted by dc_dux
host and ace.
I think you are both missing one critical point ..... by most measures, there is no "the Democrats" or at least to the same extent as there is "the Republicans".
.....With that being said...I will withhold any further comment on the FISA amendments until the Senate votes later this week.
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dc_dux, first, I was shocked to hear that Hoyer was even negotiating with republican leaders...there was no political or national security justification to do more than allow FISA to sunset back to the pre-August 2007 law....with an offer to change the laws' wording to address the FISA judge's claim that communications not originating or ending in the US....but only passing through US based telecomm switches required warrants...a change to the law to exempt those "both party" foreign communications from requiring warrants.
Then, I became more shocked with the announcement that a bill was agreed on with Blunt and Bond, and quickly posted on Hoyer's web address.....rising to astonished when it was announced that it would be voted on in the house in less than a day after it was posted, with no hearings, and half an hour allotted for debate by non-leadership house members.
My shiock grew when the defacto leader of the democratic party, Obama, did not release a statement before the house voted on the bill.
Nothing could have prepared me for the statement Obama belatedly did issue....because it sounded just like something Bush would have said...see my last post....
I have a feeling, _dux, that you will find a way, no matter what happens in the senate, to make me look like the "hot headed reactionary", and Obama like the reasonable, stalwart, sincere, democratic presidential candidate.
"Lumping me in" with ace, (presumably to make my well documented opinions seem indistinguishable from ace's rhetorical and predictably partisan ones...). in the intro of your last post, was no accident, was it? You can put lipstick on this, all you want, dc_dux, but wishing ain't gonna make it so......