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Originally Posted by loquitur
everyone can be argued to be a pawn of other people. that's because we live in a society where we get ahead by cooperating.
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Yes, but compare who people are a pawn to. If we are to categorize Obama as a pawn, he seems a pawn of the left. He's a pawn to liberal interests, which in the case of what we're seeing now means undoing a great deal of Bush folly. Bush 2.0 on the other hand seems to have created a situation in Iraq where many of his and Cheney's friends can become wildly rich. And that's really just one example.
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Originally Posted by loquitur
As explained by you, this idea of PTB is not that far removed from a conspiracy theory. You do see that, don't you?
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Are we using theory in the scientific sense or the more common sense? If it's the latter, then I disagree. Oil interests in government and international banking are hardly "theory". Corporate war profiteering is hardly "theory". Really, even the very unethical practices of international bankers is very well established with verifiable evidence.