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Ratman · 06-17-2008, 10:00 PM

So what about professional football players? Are they nonconformist in American culture? This is a ridiculous threadjack that has nothing to do with the question at hand.

BTW, there is one sumo rikishi that is over 40- Tochitenko at Maku no shita 59. He is 41 years old, 178cm tall and 147.3kg. There is also a 39 year old, Kimenryu at Ms 55, 189cm, 135.6kg. In Japan, you are considered your age for the whole year, not just after your birthday, so technically he is 40. There are 734 wrestlers in
the professional ranks, plus collegiate and others. Suffice to say this is a very, very small percentage of the Japanese population. As their weight is a part of the sport, I would bet that exceptions would be made for them, as for Judo Olympians, K-1 fighters, American football players, and so on.

There are always going to be those that fall outside of the norm, which is why it's the norm and not the all. This legislation does not punish the offender, it pays attention to those who need help. It punishes the companies that demand so much from employees that they have little chance at a healthy lifestyle. If the companies decide to simply pay the fines, with medical intervention they have to accommodate the doctor's orders. so either way, the patient has a chance at success. For those that don't work, it is now unfashionable to be "metabo", and the social pressure will help push those people into healthier lifestyles.

You simply cannot compare Japan and the US in these terms. The very reasons this will work in Japan are the reasons why it wouldn't work in the US. If you are determined to be fat, a drug addict, a scofflaw, or anything else outside the norm of Japanese society, please do not move here. Stay in the US where you have the "right" to do whatever you want, including scream about how "wronged" you are by this law or that law, and you can probably win a "fat" settlement against your heatlthcare provider because they didn't "make" you lose weight.

06-17-2008, 10:00 PM	#130 (permalink)
Ratman Addict Location: Somewhere... Across the sea...	So what about professional football players? Are they nonconformist in American culture? This is a ridiculous threadjack that has nothing to do with the question at hand. BTW, there is one sumo rikishi that is over 40- Tochitenko at Maku no shita 59. He is 41 years old, 178cm tall and 147.3kg. There is also a 39 year old, Kimenryu at Ms 55, 189cm, 135.6kg. In Japan, you are considered your age for the whole year, not just after your birthday, so technically he is 40. There are 734 wrestlers in the professional ranks, plus collegiate and others. Suffice to say this is a very, very small percentage of the Japanese population. As their weight is a part of the sport, I would bet that exceptions would be made for them, as for Judo Olympians, K-1 fighters, American football players, and so on. There are always going to be those that fall outside of the norm, which is why it's the norm and not the all. This legislation does not punish the offender, it pays attention to those who need help. It punishes the companies that demand so much from employees that they have little chance at a healthy lifestyle. If the companies decide to simply pay the fines, with medical intervention they have to accommodate the doctor's orders. so either way, the patient has a chance at success. For those that don't work, it is now unfashionable to be "metabo", and the social pressure will help push those people into healthier lifestyles. You simply cannot compare Japan and the US in these terms. The very reasons this will work in Japan are the reasons why it wouldn't work in the US. If you are determined to be fat, a drug addict, a scofflaw, or anything else outside the norm of Japanese society, please do not move here. Stay in the US where you have the "right" to do whatever you want, including scream about how "wronged" you are by this law or that law, and you can probably win a "fat" settlement against your heatlthcare provider because they didn't "make" you lose weight. __________________ The difference between theory and reality is that in theory there is no difference. "God made man, but he used the monkey to do it." DEVO Last edited by Ratman; 06-17-2008 at 10:04 PM..