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Old 06-17-2008, 08:08 AM   #110 (permalink)
Terrell
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Location: Orlando, Florida
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Originally Posted by Willravel
It's your investment, too. It's the case of "if you don't like it, change the system or leave". But it's not a nanny state if you give them the power.
I don't think that they should have the power. They don't have the power here in the US to legislate Fat, at least not under Art 1 Sec 8 under Powers of Congres (though our Judiciary has been lax in restraining Congress as well as the State Legislatures historically, so have our Executives) not so sure in Japan. But it's still a case of nanny-state, whenever any government is so presumptuous as to use their power to legislate something as the weight of individual citizens, even if it's popular to do so.

The government in such a case have assumed the role of parents and are treating the citizenry (free adults) as if they are children and are telling them what they can or cannot eat, what they should or should not weigh. This is not something that the government of any free society should do. What's next are they going to tell the people that they're grounded or cannot have their allowance if they don't eat their vegetables.

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Originally Posted by Willravel
BTW, would you still whine about your personal freedom to be unhealthy if you were paying like 35% of your current medical coverage?
I would be opposed to the state infringing upon my freedom regardless of the finances involved, based on the principle of the thing. I don't want the state making my personal decisions for me under any circumstances. As an adult those decisions are for me to make. And the state should be told in no uncertain terms where it can take it's paternalism, and which orifice it can shove said paternalism up. hint: it's the one where Sol doesn't shine.

I don't want the state telling me or anyone else what to eat or in what quantities, whether or not to use drugs, which consenting woman to have sex with, which books to read, which political philosophies to believe, when to go to bed, when or whether to get married, to have sex outside or marriage or not, with or without a condom, to have children or not (I'm childfree), whether or not to get a vasectomy (or for the ladies a tubal), whether or not to use contraceptives, whether or not to have an abortion (for the ladies), or what religion I should believe in. When it comes to personal decisions, my personal philosophy is that the government should have NO, ZERO, ZIP ZILCH authority in those areanas to make decisions, and should butt out as far as adults are concerned.
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