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Old 06-15-2008, 03:23 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Tully Mars
I was a little younger but remember my dad watching news coverage. I saw the "Manson girls" walking arm in arm to/from(???) court. I asked my dad what were they doing with those girls? He told me "they're going to kill them." A little shocked I asked him "why?" His answer scared the living crap out of me. My mom came running out and told him "you can't tell a kid stuff like that!" He said "Why not? It's the truth."

I read "Helter Skelter" several years later and he was right- it was the truth.

I'm with you. Born again, too young to know better blah, blah freaking blah. Some things you pay for forever, or at least should.

BTW- Host, ever hear the term "one trick pony?" I mean does ever freaking topic have to be turned around to the Bush Ad.?
Again....a huge amount of anger at and condemnation of a harmless husk of a woman, one legged, dying from a cancerous tumor in her brain, who was convicted of killing someone 39 years ago, as a very young adult, while under the influence of a messianic psycopath.

vs....

A curious aversion to taking a position, or discussing, and for many at TFP and in the country, even considering whether we have a mass murdering war criminal in either of the two highest elected offices in the US.

I called this thread as I saw it....majority of posts showing condemnation and bitterness out of proportion for the actual facts.... the woman is harmless, dying....or the authorities will not approve her compassionate release.... at a significant expense to the taxpayers, in a state that is in extreme fiscal crisis, while a spouse of this convict is ready and willing to take her into his custody at his expense....and he is an officer of the court...a person known to the court to be responsible, ethical, his word in court taken as reliable by almost any presiding judge....

So, a reaction here that seems ugly.... on it's face, nonsensical in relation to the personal relationship this woman's crime and circumstances have to any of those who post so vehemently.

Conversely, hundreds of thousands are dead in Iraq.....Tully, I know you get my point...big reaction here, to a tiny problem, even a non-problem....tiny reaction to a mega-problem....it is that the reaction and focus on this inconsequential issue, is huge, and the reaction to the possibility that our country went to war on purpose, avoidably, and unnecessarily....the president's own press secretary has now said that, in writing.....is barely to be seen, in all of TFP, and in 3D America.

We all pick our shots....why are people so worked up about this one....so muted about a huge consequential, on it's face....crime of the new century, contrived, unnecessary war?

I could see, if people demonstrated the capacity to take an unwavering stance of "incarceration until death", as an appropriate, under all circumstances reaction to the possible release of this dying convicted murderer, and still demonstrate a capacity to demand a follow up on Scott McClellan's now revealed opinion that the Iraq war was unneccessary, but that isn't a reaction that is being voiced.....anywhere.

The stern, resolute,reaction to whether or not to release a dying, elderly crippled murderer, vs. the non-reaction to waging unneccessary, aggressive war, is confusing, if the reaction here is related to a sense of justice, and not confusing, if the disconnect is part of a possible explanation as to how the war could have happened, and it's origins and motive still gone uninvestigated.

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