View Single Post
Old 06-15-2008, 09:58 AM   #135 (permalink)
pan6467
Lennonite Priest
 
pan6467's Avatar
 
Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA
Quote:
Originally Posted by ratbastid
Schools DO need to teach this. Relying on parents hasn't worked--as can be seen from the results of Abstinence Only... which McCain supports.

You're really going to have to go through some logical flaming hoops to justify supporting McCain on this one, pan.
How did I say I support McCain..... I stated how I feel on the issue..... now it's up to me to decide who best represents that issue or is closest to it.

If you read my post nowhere do I say "Abstinence Only"..... nowhere do I state schools should not teach it....... nowhere do I state that contraception and education should not be available.

You twist my stating a belief that the federal government should in no way fund contraception to "Abstinence Only". That is a mighty huge jump and there is no justification that is what I am saying..... because it isn't.

But if you go by my true argument, the true belief I have stated..... you cannot truly argue against it because you have nothing to stand on. Thus, you need to twist and argue things that aren't even remotely close to what I said.

I don't believe in all honesty McCain cares one way or the other about birth control, hence, DC's post.

Obama on the other hand will do what he does..... he will say whatever is the "right" more popular answer.

I would rather have a man who is willing to state his personal views, even if he doesn't have any on an issue.... than someone trying to tell me what they think I want to hear.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Starshine
Well, if it's cost you're concerned about don't you think it would be less expensive for the insurance companies to pay for birth control rather than the hospital expenses of having a baby?

That's common sense.

And as for my "dark ages" I meant that in the terms of McCain wanting to overturn Roe vs. Wade, I don't think we should be taking steps backwards.
I seriously doubt and hope to God Roe v Wade is never overturned.

So the Federal government should pay for those who want to have sex and use birth control??????

How and why is it the federal government's responsibility to make sure you are educated and have these materials?

That is just fucking insane.
__________________
I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"

Last edited by pan6467; 06-15-2008 at 10:03 AM.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
pan6467 is offline  
 

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360