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Old 06-14-2008, 12:34 PM   #121 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by dc_dux
pan...you've conveniently twisted what I posted. I said IMO, his progressive policies are the best way forward for the country but the impact of any policy changes are not likely to be felt overnight....he has never suggested anything more.

One thing is more certain, IMO....a continuation of the same policies as Bush will only compound the problems we currently face and that is what you will get, for the most part, with McCain....
dc_dux, the economy will not improve without dramatic, swift, forceful, economic reform. The problem is that Obama is more progressive than McCain, but he does not even raise issues evinced here, by Ben Stein, who is certainly no "progressive", himself:
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http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/02/bu...pagewanted=all
Everybody’s Business
The Long and Short of It at Goldman Sachs

By BEN STEIN
Published: December 2, 2007

...HERE is a query, as we used to say in law school: Should Henry M. Paulson Jr., who formerly ran a firm that engaged in this kind of conduct, be serving as Treasury secretary? Should there not be some inquiry into what the invisible government of Goldman (and the rest of Wall Street) did to create this disaster, which has caught up with some Wall Street firms but not the nimble Goldman?

When the Depression got under way, the government created the Temporary National Economic Committee to study just what had happened on the Street to get the tragedy going. Maybe it’s time for an investigation of just what Wall Street and Goldman did to make money as they pumped this mortgage mess into the economic system, and sometimes were seemingly on both sides of the deal.

Or is Goldman Sachs like “Love Story”? Does working there mean never having to say you’re sorry?
Obama is taking up the seat....squeezing out any opportunity for an actual progressive democratic candidate. Since one did not emerge, Edwards would at least have been a poor stepchild in that role....he showed potential to possibly rise to the occasion.

IMO, Obama cannot and won't....not when Ben Stein seems progressive, compared to Obama. The investigation driven reform needs to happen fast, if there is any hope of mitigating a downward spiral in consumer demand.

The folks in control got what they wanted...an ambitious, well spoken, charismatic young man....to take up the seat in the oval office. The people needed an intimidating firebrand, along the lines of a Huey Long, sans the ego and corrupted background. Things need to be shaken up....Obama is there because he will leave the folks at the top alone....at a time when they need to be investigated, exposed....effed with!

Paulson at treasury is a fox in the henhouse....why hasn't Obama been asking the questions that Ben Stein, in the NY Times, has? I've been asking them, and I''m nobody....but I know where we are, and where we're headed if something isn't done ASAP, by elected officials, or by the growing, deposed, increasingly desperate feeling, middle class mob.

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